[Lex Computer & Tech Group/LCTG] Special Meeting Computer and Technology Group

Rich Moffitt rich at richmoffitt.org
Fri Jul 9 09:13:31 PDT 2021


I may be able to at least attend part of that, I'll put it in my calendar.
(thank goodness for working from home)

Thanks!
-Rich


On Fri, Jul 9, 2021 at 11:33 AM <palbin24 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Rich,
> We are having a session to brainstorm issues next Wednesday at 9 prior to
> our scheduled meeting.
>
> Can you find time to attend and share your thoughts?
>
> Peter
>
> On Jul 9, 2021, at 11:24 AM, Rich Moffitt <rich at richmoffitt.org> wrote:
>
> 
> Hi, I'm mainly a passive reader of this mailing list and have only
> attended a couple of the online sessions, but I have a bit of background
> setting up online and hybrid meeting sessions. Is anyone interested in a
> list of items that could be used?
>
> -Rich
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 8, 2021 at 5:17 PM Harry Forsdick <forsdick at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Peter,
>>
>> I have looked and been unsuccessful so far.  But I will continue, hoping
>> to uncover something in one of the many places I have stashed stuff in the
>> last 5 years...
>>
>> -- Harry
>>
>>
>>
>> Harry Forsdick <http://www.forsdick.com/resume/>
>> Lexington Photo Scanning <http://lexingtonphotoscan.com/>
>> Town Meeting Member Precinct 7 <http://lexingtontmma.org/>
>> harry at forsdick.com
>> www.forsdick.com
>>   46 Burlington St.
>> Lexington, MA 02420 <https://goo.gl/xZXT2F>
>> (781) 799-6002 (mobile) <callto:17817996002>
>> meet.jit.si/HarryForsdick (video)
>> Click <http://forsdick.weebly.com/home/my-websites> to see my other
>> websites
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 6, 2021 at 7:47 PM <palbin24 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Harry,
>>> Do you have the original proposals? That certainly would be a good place
>>> to start if we choose to go down that road.
>>>
>>> One caveat is that with a “multi-media” meeting someone needs to play
>>> “director” so that that the focus of the camera for the video is on the
>>> person speaking.
>>>
>>> Thinking back, could the LexMedia camera be “plugged into “ a video
>>> feed? Just a thought, not jumping to solution!
>>>
>>> Peter
>>>
>>> On Jul 6, 2021, at 7:24 PM, john rudy <jjrudy1 at comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> I agree
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> John Rudy
>>>
>>> 781-861-0402
>>>
>>> 781-718-8334 (cell)
>>>
>>> John.rudy at alum.mit.edu
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 13 Hawthorne Lane
>>>
>>> Bedford, MA  01730-1047
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* George Gamota <ggamota at stma-llc.com>
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 6, 2021 6:29 PM
>>> *To:* 'Harry Forsdick' <harry at forsdick.com>; 'john rudy' <
>>> jjrudy1 at comcast.net>
>>> *Cc:* 'Lex Computer Group' <LCTG at lists.toku.us>
>>> *Subject:* RE: [Lex Computer & Tech Group/LCTG] Special Meeting
>>> Computer and Technology Group
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I agree with Harry, and this is a perfect time to ask the Town/CC for
>>> money once we have a proposal.
>>>
>>> One of the by-products of the meeting on the 14th is to start drafting
>>> a proposal.
>>>
>>> George.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* LCTG <lctg-bounces+ggamota=stma-llc.com at lists.toku.us> *On
>>> Behalf Of *Harry Forsdick
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 6, 2021 6:06 PM
>>> *To:* john rudy <jjrudy1 at comcast.net>
>>> *Cc:* Lex Computer Group <LCTG at lists.toku.us>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Lex Computer & Tech Group/LCTG] Special Meeting
>>> Computer and Technology Group
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> John, et. al.,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I don't think we should hesitate to ask the Town to pay for this.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Having seen how the Town insists that the installation will be done
>>> either by the staff electricians of the Facilities Department or an outside
>>> contractor who is a "professional" in this area, I know it won't be you or
>>> me with our wire cutters, and it will cost a lot more than we think
>>> it should.  In addition, in order to make both the audio and video
>>> equipment be fixed assets that are always available, it will require one or
>>> more dedicated PCs to host the cameras and microphones as Zoom
>>> "participants".  I think we can craft the use of software (primarily Zoom)
>>> to host each of the cameras and microphones without having to write any
>>> software -- and that is the most valuable thing we can do in the
>>> implementation of this project.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I came to these conclusions when I observed the high-level design,
>>> implementation and deployoment of the technology for the Community Center
>>> in 2017.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -- Harry
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Harry Forsdick
>>> Lexington Photo Scanning
>>> Town Meeting Member Precinct 7
>>> harry at forsdick.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 46 Burlington St., Lexington, MA 02420
>>> (781) 799-6002 (mobile)
>>> www.forsdick.com
>>> click to see my other websites
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 6, 2021 at 5:30 PM john rudy <jjrudy1 at comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> A separate issue is how one pays for this.  Let’s say we come up with a
>>> $1000 solution.  We have some data which I do not recall but let’s assume
>>> we have 40 active members.  Unless the CC contributes, we then ask for $40
>>> per member and see what happens.  If one calculates the savings of 1 hour
>>> of driving (expenses plus wasted time) anyone should be able to justify
>>> it.  Thanks for what you did
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> John Rudy
>>>
>>> 781-861-0402
>>>
>>> 781-718-8334 (cell)
>>>
>>> John.rudy at alum.mit.edu
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 13 Hawthorne Lane
>>>
>>> Bedford, MA  01730-1047
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Harry Forsdick <forsdick at gmail.com>
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 6, 2021 5:17 PM
>>> *To:* john rudy <jjrudy1 at comcast.net>
>>> *Cc:* Lex Computer Group <LCTG at lists.toku.us>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Lex Computer & Tech Group/LCTG] Special Meeting
>>> Computer and Technology Group
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> John,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks for setting up the meeting at 9 am on July 14 to discuss Hybrid
>>> Meetings.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Unfortunately, I will be away in the Berkshires on July 14 so I won't be
>>> able to participate.  In the past several days, I have done some research
>>> on the Internet looking for various suggested solutions to the issue of
>>> Hybrid Meetings -- everybody is thinking about this subject these days.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I have written down my contributions to a discussion about this topic.
>>> This might serve as a good starting point for a discussion:
>>>
>>>    -
>>>    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rnwFZEExlY4cubzU30vhTK2J1znWT1FRKIFcwcNlOZg/edit?usp=sharing
>>>
>>> I have shared this in a way that everybody who receives this message has
>>> permission to leave comments on what I have written.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If there is one main idea I have, it is, keep this *as simple as we can
>>> get away with*.  As you well know, it's possible to go way overboard
>>> with a group design session, and this is a mistake.  In general, my rule
>>> when doing such things is to start low and make improvements based on
>>> actual experience, not imagined need, as we go along.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> As for additional hardware, we will clearly need additional microphones
>>> and cameras.  As I've mentioned, between 2014 and 2017 I was involved (as
>>> was George Gamota) in the high-level design of the A/V equipment used
>>> throughout the Community Center.  Included in this design were ideas and
>>> plans for having a video conferencing capability permanently installed in
>>> each of the rooms where meetings might be held.  This plan was a little too
>>> far out for the higher-ups and was politely ignored.  But if we had
>>> installed the fixed microphones and cameras, we wouldn't be having to do
>>> this now.  So be it:  there was nothing like a global pandemic to motivate
>>> the idea in peoples' minds.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Four years later, now that we all seem to be comfortable with the
>>> beneficial aspects of cameras and microphones picking up the content of our
>>> meetings, the suggestion that we have cameras and microphones permanently
>>> installed in the conference room still stands.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I think that is all I have for now.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -- Harry
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Harry Forsdick
>>> Lexington Photo Scanning
>>> Town Meeting Member Precinct 7
>>> harry at forsdick.com
>>> www.forsdick.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 46 Burlington St.
>>> Lexington, MA 02420
>>> (781) 799-6002 (mobile)
>>> meet.jit.si/HarryForsdick (video)
>>> Click to see my other websites
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 2, 2021 at 9:26 AM john rudy <jjrudy1 at comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> At 9am on July 14th we will discuss the return to the Lexington
>>> Community Center.  You can view it as storming the Bastille.
>>>
>>> The Community Center is reopening on July 5th and we must decide
>>> whether to return, remain on Zoom, or do something in the middle.  And of
>>> course what we decide to do for July might be different than what we choose
>>> to do in September or January
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Everyone is invited and we will use or normal Zoom entry.  Steve will
>>> merely open it up an hour early.  So far I have heard from Charlie Holbrow,
>>> Harry Forsdick, Peter Albin, George Burnell, Bob Primak but would expect
>>> others.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It will be useful to know what other organizations are doing.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If we decide to have a mixed environment we have to think about how we
>>> would zoom from the Community Center.  Would we need additional equipment?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I would appreciate knowing if others plan to participate.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> John Rudy
>>>
>>> 781-861-0402
>>>
>>> 781-718-8334 (cell)
>>>
>>> John.rudy at alum.mit.edu
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 13 Hawthorne Lane
>>>
>>> Bedford, MA  01730-1047
>>>
>>>
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