[Lex Computer & Tech Group/LCTG] Anyone run into this problem a few days ago?

[Drew King]

Bob, All,

Configuring Thunderbird to use OAuth2 is very simple. I'll include 2 
clips, one for IMAP authentication, and another for SMTP authentication.

This is for Thunderbird and Gmail:

Incoming authentication:


Outgoing, authentication:




Drew.



On 6/4/2022 6:46 PM, Robert Primak wrote:
> I got that message over a month ago, maybe two months. I have Claws 
> Mail in Linux, and it was affected. I had to enable 2-Factor 
> Authentication. This means I have to use my smart phone to log into 
> gmail now. I also had to obtain and enter into my gmail profile the 
> app password for Claws Mail, which was generated from my Google 
> Account. I simply entered the app password into the account profile 
> and checked off Save Password. So I no longer have to enter my 
> password each time I download gmail into Claws. Actually this is more 
> convenient than the old two-step way.
>
> Fastmail (paid email service based in Australia) imposed the app 
> password scheme (but not 2FA) over a year ago. Same setup. If I want 
> to use Thunderbird, it gets its own App Password, or else I can use 
> OAuth if I choose to learn how to set that up. Yahoo and Google both 
> use versions of OAuth if you want to go that route. Yahoo has also 
> been requiring an App Password for months if not over a year now. But 
> not 2FA. So only my Google Account uses 2FA in addition to App 
> Passwords right now.
>
> My phone logs into Google through Android, meaning that the only 
> password used in the PIN by which I unlock the phone. This strikes me 
> as less secure than even an App Password, but that's the way they do 
> things in Android.
>
> Comcast has a different scheme, which involves a couple of server 
> redirects. Somehow, this is supposed to be more secure than the more 
> direct logins they used to use. They still allow user name and 
> password to log in through my email clients.
>
> IMAP and POP3 seem to use the same schemes with the services I have 
> mentioned. POP3 is said to be less secure than IMAP, so it may someday 
> be going away. I'll have to expand my Local Folders when and if this 
> happens. (This allows making changes or moving messages or deleting 
> messages on one device without affecting the originating server or the 
> other devices. The very antithesis of sync.)
>
> The times they are a-changin'. You've got to roll with the changes.
>
> -- Bob Primak
>
> On Saturday, June 4, 2022, 12:12:08 AM EDT, Drew King 
> <dking65 at kingconsulting.us> wrote:
>
>
> All,
>
> Anyone get struck down while using old/outdated/unsupported apps while 
> connecting to Google? Typically, very old versions of MS Outlook fit 
> the bill. Anyone still use Outlook 2007? Wondering if it still works. 
> My Outlook 2010 client can still access Gmail.
>
> Google does let you use special "Application Passwords". A unique 
> password for each application.
>
> This is a snip from a Google message I received. Google was reminding 
> me that I use application passwords, which it also discourages.
>
> Mozilla Thunderbird supports the newer Google authentication, OAuth2. 
> OAuth 2.0 is the industry-standard protocol for authorization.
>
>
> -- 
> Drew King
>
>
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