[Lex Computer & Tech Group/LCTG] New England's Largest Battery Is Hidden Inside A Mass. Mountain | WBUR News

[Allan Sherman]

Absolutely right, Mike. It certainly is Quabbin.not Wachusett.

Maybe it was that I was thinking of the Wachusett power house in Clinton,
maybe it was that I am 9400 miles away, or am I drinking something other
than MWRA water?

-Al



On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 4:47 PM Michael Alexander <mna.ma at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Isn’t Quabbin Reservoir the real provenance of Boston Area (MWRA) water,
> including water for Lexington and Bedford?  Quabbin feeds the Wachusett
> Reservoir, which then feeds water to the Boston Metro Area (although not
> all towns therein).
>
>     – Mike Alexander
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, May 18, 2022, 11:38 PM, Allan Sherman <
> allanpsherman at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> It is interesting to see this article and be reminded of taking a tour of
> the Northfield Mountain powerhouse, probably in the 60s.  I suspect tours
> are no longer available as a result of 9/11.
>
> An interesting sidelight to this story is the provenance of MWRA water
> from the Wachusett Reservoir to the Boston area.  There has been a proposed
> plan for many years of how to provide more water should the Wachusett
> Reservoir have insufficient capacity for Boston's water needs.  The
> original plan was to pump water from the Connecticut River to
> keep Wachusett full.  It is now unnecessary to build a pumping station for
> this purpose.  All that is now needed is an aqueduct to carry Northfield
> Reservoir water to Wachusett, a distance of about 12 miles.  The pumping
> capacity is already there.
>
> Incidentally, water flowing from Wachusett passes through turbines to
> extract the energy and generate electricity while being carried to Boston.
>
> -Al
>
>
>
> On Wed, May 18, 2022 at 2:33 AM Carl Lazarus <carllazarus at comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
> Thank you, Harry.  I am amazed that I did not know about the Northfield
> facility.  Pumped water storage still represents over 90% of all the
> world’s electricity storage.  The world’s largest such facility is in
> Virginia, or was the last time I looked.  I don’t know what China has done
> very recently.  Unfortunately, there is not a huge growth potential of
> pumped hydro as we know it, because you need certain geography to make it
> feasible:  an upper reservoir and a lower reservoir or running water
> source, with enough of a height differential.  There is some interest in
> using the height difference between underground caverns and the ground, but
> so far it has not had much traction.
>
>
>
> Yes it is wasteful of energy, as is electrolyzing water to make hydrogen
> as an energy storage medium and later oxidizing the hydrogen in fuel
> cells.  However, if you have excess solar and wind energy production at
> some times of the day/year, it is less wasteful to convert it to something
> than to just throw it away.
>
>
>
> -- Carl
>
>
>
> *From:* LCTG <lctg-bounces+carllazarus=comcast.net at lists.toku.us> *On
> Behalf Of *Harry Forsdick
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 17, 2022 8:58 AM
> *To:* LCTG at lists.toku.us
> *Subject:* [Lex Computer & Tech Group/LCTG] New England's Largest Battery
> Is Hidden Inside A Mass. Mountain | WBUR News
>
>
>
> Here is a large scale battery based on the differences in cost of
> electricity between high and low periods of demand.  Right here in
> Massachusetts!
>
>
>
> — Harry
>
>
>
> https://www.wbur.org/news/2016/12/02/northfield-mountain-hydroelectric-station
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