[Lex Computer & Tech Group/LCTG] New England's Largest Battery Is Hidden Inside A Mass. Mountain | WBUR News

[L Wittig]

If you think about it, Helen Caldicott probably did more to exacerbate
global warming than any other individual on earth.

On Tue, May 24, 2022 at 10:55 PM Carl Lazarus <carllazarus at comcast.net>
wrote:

> I agree that it is a shame we have been moving away from nuclear
> electricity.  It is not perfect, but it beats gas.
>
> Maybe a next generation of nuclear will gain acceptance, but it is years
> away.
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> -- Carl
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> *From:* Ted Kochanski <tedpkphd at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 24, 2022 7:31 PM
> *To:* Daniel Silber <dasilber at gmail.com>
> *Cc:* Carl Lazarus <carllazarus at comcast.net>; LCTG at lists.toku.us
> *Subject:* Re: [Lex Computer & Tech Group/LCTG] New England's Largest
> Battery Is Hidden Inside A Mass. Mountain | WBUR News
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> All,
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> I know a bit about Northfield Mountain -- originally a project of
> Northeast Utilities [I was a long-time shareholder] -- it was built because
> first gen nuclear fission plants didn't much "like" throttling
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>  Essentially due south of Northfield was [and somewhat still is] one  the
> "most muscular" clusters of fission reactors [Connecticut Yankee -- Hadam
> Conn and Milestone 1,2,3 directly on Long Island Sound] . Essentially due
> ue north was the older and and smaller Yankee atomic [Rowe MA and Vt Yankee
> on the CT River]
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> During the day they provided much of the baseload for New England except
> for Boston Metro which had Pilgrim and Seabrook] and the more remote Maine
> Yankee
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> At night most of the nukes hads not too much to power -- so -- why not
> pump some water
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> ERGO Norhtfield mountain -- which also provided a recreational facility --
> courtesy of your friendly electric utility
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> Prior to the anti-nuclear craziness -- new england was on--tap for a
> nearly Green Electric [and nuclear] system
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> Ted
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> On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 12:04 PM Daniel Silber <dasilber at gmail.com> wrote:
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> Hello All,
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> I went to Northfield Mountain with the M.I.T. Outing Club in Feb. 1976
> because there was a cross-country skiing center there, on top of the
> "battery".
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> Dan
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> On Tue, May 17, 2022 at 10:33 AM Carl Lazarus <carllazarus at comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
> Thank you, Harry.  I am amazed that I did not know about the Northfield
> facility.  Pumped water storage still represents over 90% of all the
> world’s electricity storage.  The world’s largest such facility is in
> Virginia, or was the last time I looked.  I don’t know what China has done
> very recently.  Unfortunately, there is not a huge growth potential of
> pumped hydro as we know it, because you need certain geography to make it
> feasible:  an upper reservoir and a lower reservoir or running water
> source, with enough of a height differential.  There is some interest in
> using the height difference between underground caverns and the ground, but
> so far it has not had much traction.
>
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> Yes it is wasteful of energy, as is electrolyzing water to make hydrogen
> as an energy storage medium and later oxidizing the hydrogen in fuel
> cells.  However, if you have excess solar and wind energy production at
> some times of the day/year, it is less wasteful to convert it to something
> than to just throw it away.
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> -- Carl
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> *From:* LCTG <lctg-bounces+carllazarus=comcast.net at lists.toku.us> *On
> Behalf Of *Harry Forsdick
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 17, 2022 8:58 AM
> *To:* LCTG at lists.toku.us
> *Subject:* [Lex Computer & Tech Group/LCTG] New England's Largest Battery
> Is Hidden Inside A Mass. Mountain | WBUR News
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>
> Here is a large scale battery based on the differences in cost of
> electricity between high and low periods of demand.  Right here in
> Massachusetts!
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> — Harry
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> https://www.wbur.org/news/2016/12/02/northfield-mountain-hydroelectric-station
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