[Lex Computer & Tech Group/LCTG] Looking for sites blocked by paywalls or remove-ad-blockers

Steve Isenberg smisenberg at gmail.com
Mon Nov 13 09:52:00 PST 2023


Gentlepeople,
After much consideration, discussing with several people, and consulting
with ChatGPT, I've decided *not* to demonstrate this.  We can discuss the
situation on Wednesday's Potpourri but I no longer feel comfortable giving
a demonstration for legal reasons.  My apologies.
I'm open to comments.
-steve

Here's what I've learned from ChatGPT:
Steve asks ChatGPT:
suppose I have found a way to get around a paywall without paying or
subscribing, or to get around a site's requirement to disable all ad
blockers without disabling ad blockers, and I can do this only on my
computer and without accessing or tampering with the website. Am I
committing a crime or doing something that would subject me to a lawsuit or
other legal action by the website owner?

ChatGPT responds (edited):
Circumventing paywalls or other access restrictions without authorization
may be a violation of the website's terms of service, which could
potentially lead to legal consequences. Additionally, in some
jurisdictions, such actions could be considered unauthorized access,
hacking, or a violation of computer security laws.
If you find a way to bypass paywalls and other measures that protect the
website content without permission, it may be seen as a violation of the
website's rights and could result in legal action.

I asked Aria the same question and it responds (edited):
It's important to note that bypassing paywalls or circumventing a website's
requirements without permission may be considered unethical or even illegal
in some jurisdictions. Here are a few points to consider:
Websites have the right to protect their content and enforce their terms of
service.
Unauthorized access to paid content or finding ways to bypass paywalls may
violate copyright laws or terms of service agreements.
Engaging in such activities could potentially subject you to legal action
by the website owner, such as a lawsuit or other legal consequences.

Harry asked a similar question addressing only circumventing paywalls, and
got the response (edited):
Bypassing a paywall of a website without a subscription could potentially
be considered a violation of the website's terms of service or terms of
use. It may also infringe upon copyright laws or other applicable laws,
depending on the jurisdiction. Engaging in such activities could
potentially have legal consequences, including the possibility of facing
legal action from the website owner. It is always advisable to respect the
terms and conditions set by website owners and to seek proper legal means
to access content.







On Mon, Nov 13, 2023 at 12:01 PM Robert Primak <bobprimak at yahoo.com> wrote:

> The Boston Globe and the New York Times hide a lot of their content.
>
> Then there's the somewhat more problematic case of You Tube.
>
> -- Bob Primak
>
>
> On Monday, November 13, 2023 at 08:25:34 AM EST, Steve Isenberg via LCTG <
> lctg at lists.toku.us> wrote:
>
>
> Gentlepeople,
> This Wednesday as part of the presentation I plan to show how to proceed
> to web sites that prevent you from accessing their content unless you (a)
> remove all of your ad-blockers, or (b) subscribe or pay to see the content
> (paywalls).
> Could you send me (and not the list) the URL of sites you have run into
> that block your access, and I'll add them to the list I'll use as
> demonstrations.
> Thanks,
> -steve
>
>
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