[Lex Computer & Tech Group/LCTG] Upgrade to Windows 11

Fri Jun 20 08:49:45 PDT 2025

To consider:
If you have an old machine that you want to move away from Windows 10,
consider Linux Mint.
Pro: free, similar to Windows, runs on old hardware
Con: You can't run MS Office -- but you can run LibreOffice that is very
much like MS Office (and is free).

Or else you could buy a new PC to run windows 11
or buy a MacBook to get totally out of the Microsoft environment
or you could consider a Chromebook
or you could buy a refurbished PC (starting under $200) or MacBook (even
less) or Chromebook (starting under $100) -- check https://backmarket.com
(I learned of them from Harry and I've had many happy refurbs from them).

Re: Linux, we had a meeting on setting up a Linux machine a while back
(December 2021).  Should we have another, where we take an old PC and then
install Linux, set it up, and demonstrate how to use it?

Regards,
-steve

On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 11:25 AM Drew King (dking65--- via LCTG <
lctg at lists.toku.us> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> There are utilities that allow you to attempt to bypass Microsoft locks on
> putting Windows 11 on older Hardware.
>
> Every time one of these utilities manages to defeat Microsoft Microsoft
> manages to defeat them shortly thereafter.
>
> It is in my opinion not safe to attempt to run Windows 11 on unsupported
> Hardware unless it is a machine that is a test machine that you don't care
> about.
>
> If you have a spare machine that you want to play with and not count on
> being a real production machine there is a utility called Rufus that will
> let you build and installer that will install Windows 11 on Old Hardware
> but be careful because it's unlikely that you'll be able to put any updates
> or patches or fixes or security updates on the system.
>
> It won't be a viable usable safe and secure system. You can treat it as a
> lab system only and expect it to fail on you shortly thereafter.
>
>
> Drew.
>
>
>
> On June 20, 2025 10:07:56 AM EDT, Robert Primak via LCTG <
> lctg at lists.toku.us> wrote:
>
>> George and Others --
>>
>> I would stay away from any video which portrays Bill Gates as having
>> anything to do with Microsoft or Windows 11. It's likely full of nonsense,
>> to be charitable.
>>
>> I know a few people who are running Windows 11 on "unsupported hardware".
>> They've used several tricks, and I'm pretty sure the video isn't
>> recommending anything which between us, we haven't tried. These workarounds
>> are often technical and may involve hacking your Registry. Not for the
>> average home user to attempt!
>>
>> The issue is this: Microsoft has NOT relaxed their requirements to run
>> Windows 11 in a supported environment. This means, Microsoft can do and has
>> done things to make unsupported Windows 11 systems harder to maintain.
>> Example: Windows 11, 24H2 update, requires a specific instruction to be
>> supported by your CPU. Many older CPUs which are not supported lack this
>> instruction and can't receive the 24H2 update. Without this update, Windows
>> 11, 23H2 will go out of support as of October, 2025, or whenever the 25H2
>> update is released. This does not immediately put your system at risk for
>> security issues, but it''s the same as running Windows 10 on your computer
>> after its official end of support.
>>
>> I assure you, there are many other things Microsoft can do to prevent
>> unsupported systems from receiving updates. Some things would only affect
>> feature updates, but others could prevent even security updates from being
>> offered and installing.
>>
>> I would like for Drew King to chime in on this topic, if he hasn't done
>> so in an LCTG meeting yet. He and others have talked at length about the
>> end of Windows 10, unsupported systems, and supported and affordable
>> Windows 11 computers at meetings of APCUG and the Chicago Computer Society,
>> which are dues-based user to user support organizations. Tech For Senior
>> may also have discussions on this topic in their videos.
>>
>> So yes, you can run Windows 11 on unsupported hardware. But I don't think
>> it's a wise decision. There are affordable supported Windows 11 systems.
>> Just make sure your choice supports the 24H2 update.
>>
>> -- Bob Primak
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, June 19, 2025 at 11:18:15 PM EDT, ggamota--- via LCTG <
>> lctg at lists.toku.us> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Guys
>> I came across this video of how to upgrade to Windows 11 even though your
>> computer processor does not meet Microsoft's criteria.
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_p3dBrr_Sg
>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_p3dBrr_Sg>
>> Install Windows 11 on ANY Windows 10 PC with NO data loss!
>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_p3dBrr_Sg>
>> Think you're limited to Microsoft's "approval" on installing Windows 11?
>> Think again - you can ABSOLUTELY do it with NO data loss! 💻 FREE computer
>> recommendations: https://forms.gle/6hsvxDGpUFifH4WF8 FlyBy11 download
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>>
>> Any thoughts? Has anybody tried it?
>> George
>> PS I haven't tried it but thinking about it on an older computer
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