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<div>Hi Denise, <br></div><div><br></div><div>Also... to protect your data and computer/network devices going forward:<br></div><div>Always have a backup/restore strategy and plan; such as backup your data to external HDDs or pay to store your data remotely.</div><div>You may also consider having an "<span>UPS, Battery Backup & Surge Protector" device</span>
to protect all your computer/network devices, thus, data. <br></div><div>UPS is an
Uninterruptible Power Supply. In case of a sudden power outage,
power surge/spike, etc., which may damage your computer or HDDs, and may cause data loss, <a href="https://www.groovypost.com/unplugged/why-you-need-uninterruptible-power-supply-pc/">https://www.groovypost.com/unplugged/why-you-need-uninterruptible-power-supply-pc/</a>. <br></div><div>Good reading on this topic,<span id="gmail-hs_cos_wrapper_name" class="gmail-hs_cos_wrapper gmail-hs_cos_wrapper_meta_field gmail-hs_cos_wrapper_type_text"> <b>Top 6 Data Loss Causes and Top 10 Preventions, </b><a href="https://www.novabackup.com/blog/top-6-data-loss-causes-and-top-10-preventions">https://www.novabackup.com/blog/top-6-data-loss-causes-and-top-10-preventions</a>.</span></div><div><span id="gmail-hs_cos_wrapper_name" class="gmail-hs_cos_wrapper gmail-hs_cos_wrapper_meta_field gmail-hs_cos_wrapper_type_text"><br></span>
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I lost my external HDD/data after a severe thunderstorm many moons ago, luckily, I backed up the data and was able to restore the data. We have also bought UPS to protect our computers/HDDs/network devices since. <br></div><div>Evie<br></div>
</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Nov 19, 2021 at 11:06 PM Robert Primak <<a href="mailto:bobprimak@yahoo.com">bobprimak@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div style="font-family:Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><div></div>
<div dir="ltr">In Windows, I'd use File History, since it's built into Windows. </div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Duplicating onto a second drive is more of a copy/paste operation, unless the daily volume of changes is massive. I copy/paste entire Folders in both Windows and Linux. A lot of my daily volume is email downloads. </div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">-- Bob Primak</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div><br></div>
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On Friday, November 19, 2021, 09:52:46 PM EST, Steve Parus <<a href="mailto:sparus@umich.edu" target="_blank">sparus@umich.edu</a>> wrote:
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<div><div id="gmail-m_2492433930699868235yiv5943465315"><div><div dir="ltr"></div><div dir="ltr">FreeFileSync is one software tool that can keep the two backup drives files duplicate copies of each other. Lots of options and configuration possibilities. Windows, macOS and Linux. </div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">Steve Parus</div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"><blockquote type="cite">On Nov 19, 2021, at 6:59 PM, Robert Primak <<a href="mailto:bobprimak@yahoo.com" target="_blank">bobprimak@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><div></div>
<div dir="ltr">Even if the drive is giving the "click of death" it may be able to give up its data if it is coaxed. But if Windows can't even see the drive, I'm pretty sure it won't be able to recover the data.</div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">Just a reminder for next time -- get two external hard drives and make one a copy of the other. It's unlikely two drives will fail at the same time. </div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">Personally, I'm a bit paranoid/OCD. I have everything saved in triplicate externally and in duplicate internally (two separate partitions). I also use two or more operating systems -- three Linux at present, and Windows 10 Pro. The multi-Linux OS drive is external. And then there's my Chromebook, which also has a Linux on it. And several SD Cards for data. My Android phone also has an internal extra SD Card. And Cloud Backup. </div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">Data recovery services are expensive. but if what's on the external drive is really valuable to you, consider this option. And DON'T USE THE DRIVE if you want to recover the data.</div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">-- Bob Primak </div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div>
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On Friday, November 19, 2021, 01:34:22 PM EST, Denise <<a href="mailto:denise@rcn.com" target="_blank">denise@rcn.com</a>> wrote:</div>
<div><div id="gmail-m_2492433930699868235yiv5943465315"><div><div><p><span style="font-size:13pt">Hi all.</span></p><p><span style="font-size:13pt">I hope someone has a suggestion : )</span></p><p><span style="font-size:13pt">My daughter has a windows 10 p.c. desktop; and she plugged in an HDD external hard drive (that has a USB cable on one end & power plug on the other end) into her p.c. and apparently the HDD is dying (or dead?)</span></p><p><span style="font-size:13pt">She plugged it in and hears a noise. And when she goes to ‘my computer’ it’s not seen there.</span></p><p><span style="font-size:13pt">should we be looking to hire a data recovery person?</span></p><p><span style="font-size:13pt">or is there anything we can do with this?</span></p><p><span style="font-size:13pt">any suggestions on what to do next?</span></p><p><span style="font-size:13pt">thanks!</span></p><p><span style="font-size:13pt">denise</span></p></div></div></div>===============================================<br clear="none">::The Lexington Computer and Technology Group Mailing List::<br clear="none">Reply goes to sender only; Reply All to send to list.<br clear="none">Send to the list: <a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" href="mailto:LCTG@lists.toku.us" target="_blank">LCTG@lists.toku.us</a> Message archives: <a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" href="http://lists.toku.us/private.cgi/lctg-toku.us" target="_blank">http://lists.toku.us/private.cgi/lctg-toku.us</a><br clear="none">To subscribe: email <a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" href="mailto:lctg-subscribe@toku.us" target="_blank">lctg-subscribe@toku.us</a> To unsubscribe: email <a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" href="mailto:lctg-unsubscribe@toku.us" target="_blank">lctg-unsubscribe@toku.us</a><br clear="none">Future and Past meeting information: <a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" href="http://LCTG.toku.us" target="_blank">http://LCTG.toku.us</a><br clear="none">List information: <a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" href="http://lists.toku.us/listinfo.cgi/lctg-toku.us" target="_blank">http://lists.toku.us/listinfo.cgi/lctg-toku.us</a><br clear="none">This message was sent to <a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" href="mailto:bobprimak@yahoo.com." target="_blank">bobprimak@yahoo.com.</a><br clear="none">Set your list options: <a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" href="http://lists.toku.us/options.cgi/lctg-toku.us/bobprimak@yahoo.com" target="_blank">http://lists.toku.us/options.cgi/lctg-toku.us/bobprimak@yahoo.com</a></div>
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