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<div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">COVID-19 is the name of the SARS-CoV-2 disease. It is not to be referred to as WUHAN.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">This outbreak was NOT a deliberate release, so can NOT be termed biological warfare.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">I thought we were a Technology interest group, not a political debating society.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">-- Bob Primak</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div><br></div>
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On Monday, November 22, 2021, 01:49:28 PM EST, George Gamota <ggamota@stma-llc.com> wrote:
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--></style><div><div class="yiv7972373497WordSection1"><p class="yiv7972373497MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18.0pt;color:#1F497D;">Folks</span></p><p class="yiv7972373497MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18.0pt;color:#1F497D;">A few years ago, maybe 15, I was involved in a study funded in part by DARPA, USAg, and NIH, I believe. The study subject was what to do – preparation needed in case of a natural or artificial pandemic such as WUHAN (basically what to do in biological warfare).</span></p><p class="yiv7972373497MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18.0pt;color:#1F497D;"> </span></p><p class="yiv7972373497MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18.0pt;color:#1F497D;">The government knew what could happen and started to worry about lack of preparation, but money was not allocated to help prepare. DARPA allocated some funding and created a division, but Agriculture’s research was cut. I will try to get a copy and share it unless it is classified or government-only distribution.</span></p><p class="yiv7972373497MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18.0pt;color:#1F497D;">George</span></p><p class="yiv7972373497MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18.0pt;color:#1F497D;"> </span></p><div id="yiv7972373497yqt42132" class="yiv7972373497yqt3963022144"><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;"><p class="yiv7972373497MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> LCTG <lctg-bounces+ggamota=stma-llc.com@lists.toku.us> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Robert Primak<br clear="none"><b>Sent:</b> Monday, November 22, 2021 7:28 AM<br clear="none"><b>To:</b> 'Harry Forsdick' <harry@forsdick.com>; 'Lex Computer Group' <lctg@lists.toku.us>; Carl Lazarus <carllazarus@comcast.net><br clear="none"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Lex Computer & Tech Group/LCTG] Fwd: First Known Covid Case Was Vendor at Wuhan Market, Scientist Claims - The New York Times</p></div></div><p class="yiv7972373497MsoNormal"> </p><div><div><p class="yiv7972373497MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;">I'd rather not seek to fix blame. </span></p></div><div><p class="yiv7972373497MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;"> </span></p></div><div><p class="yiv7972373497MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;">But we should find out exactly what did happen, and what factors did contribute to the spread of COVID-19, in China and in other regions. And why (if this is true) COVID-19 has not been spreading recently in sub-Saharan Africa. (Could be lack of accurate reporting, but some scientists think there's more going on there. Could have implications re. population genetics and disease resistance, or resistance due to other regional endemic diseases.) </span></p></div><div><p class="yiv7972373497MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;"> </span></p></div><div><p class="yiv7972373497MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;">I'd like the emphasis to be on: </span></p></div><div><p class="yiv7972373497MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;"> </span></p></div><div><p class="yiv7972373497MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;">What do we do better next time a disease outbreak threatens to become a pandemic? How can we encourage better communication and greater transparency? Can the rest of the world convince regimes like in China that more openness won't embarrass them or cause sanctions against them just for admitting to needed facts and supplying needed data? How can we Americans participate in International disease research without contributing to future "accidents"? How do we get testing, monitoring and medicines (including vaccines) to places like India and Africa and South America faster next time?</span></p></div><div><p class="yiv7972373497MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;"> </span></p></div><div><p class="yiv7972373497MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;">And there WILL be a "next time"!</span></p></div><div><p class="yiv7972373497MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;"> </span></p></div><div><p class="yiv7972373497MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;">-- Bob Primak </span></p></div><div><p class="yiv7972373497MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;"> </span></p></div></div><div id="yiv7972373497yahoo_quoted_7649460939"><div><div><p class="yiv7972373497MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;">On Monday, November 22, 2021, 12:23:48 AM EST, Carl Lazarus <<a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:carllazarus@comcast.net" href="mailto:carllazarus@comcast.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">carllazarus@comcast.net</a>> wrote: </span></p></div><div><p class="yiv7972373497MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;"> </span></p></div><div><p class="yiv7972373497MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;"> </span></p></div><div><div id="yiv7972373497"><div><div><p class="yiv7972373497msonormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;">I don’t think we’ll ever know with certainty how the disease started. I’m not so sure that it matters, except to people who want to blame China for it (or blame the US CDC for working with the Wuhan lab). The Chinese government does deserve opprobrium for its slowness to release information. Some Chinese individuals did a good job of getting information out to the world in mid to late January despite their government. Then the US government and the WHO were slow to act on it.</span></p><p class="yiv7972373497msonormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;">-- Carl</span></p><p class="yiv7972373497msonormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;"> </span></p><div id="yiv7972373497yqt89529"><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;"><p class="yiv7972373497msonormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;"> LCTG <<a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:lctg-bounces+carllazarus=comcast.net@lists.toku.us" href="mailto:lctg-bounces+carllazarus=comcast.net@lists.toku.us" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">lctg-bounces+carllazarus=comcast.net@lists.toku.us</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Harry Forsdick<br clear="none"><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 18, 2021 4:03 PM<br clear="none"><b>To:</b> Lex 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class="yiv7972373497msonormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;">---------- Forwarded message ---------<br clear="none">From: </span><strong><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;">George Schaefer</span></strong><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;"> <<a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:gis.law@gmail.com" href="mailto:gis.law@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">gis.law@gmail.com</a>><br clear="none">Date: Thu, Nov 18, 2021 at 3:11 PM<br clear="none">Subject: Fwd: First Known Covid Case Was Vendor at Wuhan Market, Scientist Claims - The New York Times<br clear="none">To: Harry Forsdick <<a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:harry@forsdick.com" href="mailto:harry@forsdick.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">harry@forsdick.com</a>></span></p></div><p style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;" class="yiv7972373497msonormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;"> </span></p><div><p style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;" class="yiv7972373497msonormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;"> </span></p><div><div><p class="yiv7972373497msonormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;">---------- Forwarded message ---------<br clear="none">From: </span><strong><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;">George Schaefer</span></strong><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;"> <<a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:gis.law@gmail.com" href="mailto:gis.law@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">gis.law@gmail.com</a>><br clear="none">Date: Thu, Nov 18, 2021 at 3:07 PM<br clear="none">Subject: First Known Covid Case Was Vendor at Wuhan Market, Scientist Claims - The New York Times<br clear="none">To: george Schaefer <<a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:gislaw@gmail.com" 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clear="all"></span></p><div><p class="yiv7972373497msonormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;">Harry I don't have everyone's email but this article is timely.</span></p></div><p class="yiv7972373497msonormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;">-- </span></p><div><div><p class="yiv7972373497msonormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;">George Schaefer</span></p><div><p class="yiv7972373497msonormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;">617-901-4428</span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id="yiv7972373497yqt57784"><p class="yiv7972373497MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;">===============================================<br clear="none">::The Lexington Computer and Technology Group Mailing List::<br clear="none">Reply goes to sender only; Reply All to send to list.<br 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