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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>That might be an interesting 30 min talk at one of our meetings.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Thoughts?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>John<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> LCTG <lctg-bounces+jjrudy1=comcast.net@lists.toku.us> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jon Dreyer<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, December 4, 2021 8:11 PM<br><b>To:</b> lctg@lists.toku.us<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Lex Computer & Tech Group/LCTG] The impossible? Buy a laptop WITHOUT Microsoft Windows?<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p>Coincidentally, I did just that. A few folks recommended that I try a <a href="https://frame.work">Framework</a> laptop. I'll write more about it soon but I put the "kit" together in about a half hour (most of the time struggling with the tiny wifi antenna wires). Easily installed Ubuntu Linux. Now I'm in the process of moving my stuff over from my mac. First impressions are that it's a great little machine with replaceable parts from reputable manufacturers. Fits together nicely.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p>Mine's kind of insanely tricked out: 64G RAM, 4T SSD. $2636.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>-- <br>Jon "Whole Kit And Ooodles" Dreyer<br><a href="http://www.passionatelycurious.com">Math tutor/Computer science tutor</a><br><a href="http://www.passionatelycurious.com">www.passionatelycurious.com</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 2021-12-04 17:37, Steve Isenberg wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:#0B5394'>Gentlepeople,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:#0B5394'>Do you know of any place where you can buy one of those really powerful systems (like, Intel i7, good graphics, HD display, 500GB SSD, 16GB memory) and save money by buying the machine <i>without</i> an operating system (like Windows)?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:#0B5394'>I'm thinking of trying to install a Linux release on the machine and try it for video editing. Every place I look bundles the machine with Microsoft Windows.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:#0B5394'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:#0B5394'>-steve<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>