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<div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">I hate to sign up for yet another Short Subject, but yes, my hardware is able to do all these Wake routines. Problem is, with COVID r<span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;">estrictions, I am seldom remote from my apartment. My extensive use of Ubuntu and Mint would seem to make me the right choice for an experiment. I don't go on regular out of State vacations, even without a pandemic nearing its climax. </span></span></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;"><br></span></span></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;">However, I am not sure I want anyone other than myself to be able to wake my computer for a remote session. I keep private information in unencrypted files and folders, so I would have to pass on anyone other than myself actually doing a live Wake on WAN demo using my computer and Linux. Setup would be simple, but the privacy concern won't go away easily.</span></span></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;"><br></span></span></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;">I would like for Linux to be included in the Potpourri Session. Maybe someday we will be going live and meeting hybrid or in person again. Then this topic could be done as a live demo, provided I do a test run in advance. </span></span></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;"><br></span></span></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;">Great idea for a future topic!</span></span></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;"><br></span></span></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;">My <span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;">current</span></span> hardware is an Intel NUC, 11th Gen Panther Canyon, with quite a few bells and whistles, and 16 GB RAM. Ethernet is available onboard, but the location is nowhere near a router to connect to, and my apartment does not have Ethernet wiring. My Ubuntu is unusual in that it runs from an external USB 3.1 gen 2 enclosure, and therefore requires a Bios entry (F10) to select where boot from. Same with my Mint. That is not ideal for Wake on LAN/WAN. The internal SSD is Windows 10 Pro. I cannot switch these SSD locations, as Ubuntu can't run from the internal m.2 slot for some reason, last I checked. (It gets fatal disk I/O errors in there.) (The internal SSD is an NVMe SSD with a PCIE2 or 4 interface.) <span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;">And if I swap SSDs, Windows will not be where it can boot from.</span></span></span></span></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;"><br></span></span></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;">If I ever buy a device to run Ubuntu on internally, that would be a better test machine. </span></span></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;"><br></span></span></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;">If anyone else wants to use their recently installed Linux Mint or Ubuntu as a test for this demo, I would love to see that in action! With written notes to share, preferably. And/or references. I don't want to impose on Steve Isenberg for any more of his time and effort than he feels comfortable providing. And besides, Steve may be our best Apple Mac person for this idea. Anyone else with Linux want to give this a try? </span></span></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;"><br></span></span></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;">-- Bob Primak</span></span></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;"><br></span></span></div><div><br></div>
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On Friday, January 14, 2022, 10:03:03 PM EST, Drew King <dking65@kingconsulting.us> wrote:
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<p><font size="4">Bob,</font></p>
<p><font size="4">The potpourri meetings are a group of people
presenting for one meeting? I'd be up for that. It would be
great if there were one Mac user with Ethernet at home to talk
to waking up a Mac remotely. Linux can wake up too if the
hardware supports it. Are there any potential Linux users with
wake on LAN compatible hardware? A meeting that covers all three
angles might work.<br clear="none">
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<p><font size="4">If a Windows computer that you want to remote into
goes to sleep because it's set that way by default then there is
a good reason to know how to wake up a computer remotely so you
can initiate whatever remote access software you choose to use.
I would imagine that none of the free remote control software
programs allow you to remotely wake the computer.<br clear="none">
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<p><font size="4">I imagine it's comforting when traveling to know
you can use your cell to wake up your computer when you're away.<br clear="none">
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<p><font size="4">What I would do (Will do as a test just to know I
can.) is first choose a remote desktop program that can
auto-start when the computer boots and not require the user be
logged in first. Then, see if I can make it work with my current
hardware.<br clear="none">
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<p><font size="4">Google Remote Desktop meets these requirements. It
requires the Google browser on the host, which I use anyway.</font></p>
<p><font size="4">Next, gain access to my home network router via
Open VPN on my cell phone. I'm pretty certain if port forwarding
is turned on in advance you don't need to be VPN into the local
network. <br clear="none">
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<p><font size="4">Then, run a wake up app on my cell. There are
several to choose from.</font></p>
<p><font size="4">I just discovered a few minutes ago that
Teamviewer supports wake on LAN inside it's remote access
product!! I looked for it on my computer but couldn't find it.<br clear="none">
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<p><b>ALSO: Teammviewer is a great remote control app that is free
for personal use.</b><br clear="none">
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<p style="margin:8px 0px 16px;padding:0px;color:rgb(107, 130, 155);font-family:Roboto, -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, HelveticaNeue-Light, Helvetica, Raleway, Arial, sans-serif, Color UI UI -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, HelveticaNeue-Light, Helvetica, Raleway, Arial, sans-serif, Color UI UI;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;orphans:2;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;widows:2;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;">"You can turn on a sleeping or powered-off computer
using TeamViewer’s <a shape="rect" href="https://www.teamviewer.com/en/info/wake-on-lan/" style="background-color:transparent;text-decoration:none;font-size:inherit;color:rgb(3, 133, 227);" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Wake-on-LAN</a> feature. This
means you can control an offline computer remotely by waking it up
first before you establish a connection to it. </p>
<p style="margin:8px 0px 16px;padding:0px;color:rgb(107, 130, 155);font-family:Roboto, -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, HelveticaNeue-Light, Helvetica, Raleway, Arial, sans-serif, Color UI UI -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, HelveticaNeue-Light, Helvetica, Raleway, Arial, sans-serif, Color UI UI;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;orphans:2;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;widows:2;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;">You can initiate the wake-up request from another
Windows or Mac computer, or even from an Android or iOS device
running the TeamViewer Remote Control app. </p>
<p style="margin:8px 0px 16px;padding:0px;color:rgb(107, 130, 155);font-family:Roboto, -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, HelveticaNeue-Light, Helvetica, Raleway, Arial, sans-serif, Color UI UI -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, HelveticaNeue-Light, Helvetica, Raleway, Arial, sans-serif, Color UI UI;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;orphans:2;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;widows:2;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;">📌<strong style="font-weight:700;">Note</strong>: It’s not possible to wake up a Mac computer
that is fully powered down, as Apple doesn’t allow this. Macs can
only be woken up from sleep mode. Windows and Linux PCs, however,
can be woken up from sleep and hibernation mode as well as being
fully powered down, so long as the hardware supports this. "<br clear="none">
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<p>Drew.<br clear="none">
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<div id="yiv3504816591yqt85126" class="yiv3504816591yqt6273612070"><div class="yiv3504816591moz-cite-prefix">On 1/14/2022 11:01 AM, Robert Primak
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<div dir="ltr">So how do you set up the
remote PC (at home in FL) to wake up for a session, then go
back to sleep or turn almost all the way off, to conserve
components and power?</div>
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<div dir="ltr">Is there enough interest in
our group for a presentation on this subject? (Potpourri or
longer?)</div>
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<div dir="ltr">-- Bob Primak</div>
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<div> On Thursday, January 13, 2022, 09:53:30 PM EST, Drew
King <a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:dking65@kingconsulting.us" href="mailto:dking65@kingconsulting.us" class="yiv3504816591moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"><dking65@kingconsulting.us></a> wrote: </div>
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<p><font size="4">I feel confident about this free one I
just used.</font></p>
<p><font size="4"><a shape="rect" href="https://remotedesktop.google.com" class="yiv3504816591moz-txt-link-freetext yiv3504816591moz-txt-link-freetext" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://remotedesktop.google.com</a></font></p>
<p><font size="4">There is a small program that gets
installed on your host computer and the remote is
handled via browser. You must be logged into your
google account to use the software. Both computers
are authenticated via google.</font></p>
<p><font size="4">Completely free.</font></p>
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<p>Drew.<br clear="none">
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<div class="yiv3504816591moz-cite-prefix">On 1/13/2022
9:45 PM, <a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:bhff02@aol.com" href="mailto:bhff02@aol.com" class="yiv3504816591moz-txt-link-abbreviated yiv3504816591moz-txt-link-freetext" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">bhff02@aol.com</a>
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<div> <font size="2">Has anyone vetted these "free"
remote programs?</font></div>
<div><font size="2">Check out this article <a shape="rect" href="https://www.laptopmag.com/articles/disable-remote-desktop" class="yiv3504816591moz-txt-link-freetext yiv3504816591moz-txt-link-freetext" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://www.laptopmag.com/articles/disable-remote-desktop</a></font></div>
<div><font size="2">Free or not, how do you know
whether they are secure?</font></div>
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<div><font size="2">Barry Hass</font><br clear="none">
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From: Steve Isenberg <a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:smisenberg@gmail.com" href="mailto:smisenberg@gmail.com" class="yiv3504816591moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"><smisenberg@gmail.com></a><br clear="none">
To: Drew King <a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:dking65@kingconsulting.us" href="mailto:dking65@kingconsulting.us" class="yiv3504816591moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"><dking65@kingconsulting.us></a><br clear="none">
Cc: Lex Computer Group <a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:lctg@lists.toku.us" href="mailto:lctg@lists.toku.us" class="yiv3504816591moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"><lctg@lists.toku.us></a><br clear="none">
Sent: Thu, Jan 13, 2022 8:54 pm<br clear="none">
Subject: Re: [Lex Computer & Tech
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<div style="font-family:trebuchet ms, sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#0b5394;" class="yiv3504816591gmail_default">I've
used AnyDesk. <a shape="rect" href="https://anydesk.com/en" class="yiv3504816591moz-txt-link-freetext yiv3504816591moz-txt-link-freetext" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://anydesk.com/en</a></div>
<div style="font-family:trebuchet ms, sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#0b5394;" class="yiv3504816591gmail_default">Free
for personal use. <br clear="none">
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<div style="font-family:trebuchet ms, sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#0b5394;" class="yiv3504816591gmail_default">-steve<br clear="none">
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Jan 13, 2022 at 8:42 PM Drew King <<a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:dking65@kingconsulting.us" href="mailto:dking65@kingconsulting.us" class="yiv3504816591moz-txt-link-freetext yiv3504816591moz-txt-link-freetext" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">dking65@kingconsulting.us</a>>
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<blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;" class="yiv3504816591gmail_quote">All,<br clear="none">
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Its been years since the last time I
have used any kind of unattended <br clear="none">
remote control. The last one I used
doesn't offer a free product anymore.<br clear="none">
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I have a friend traveling from New York
to Florida in a few weeks and he <br clear="none">
needs to only for one week be able to
remote into his computer at home <br clear="none">
without having somebody there to accept
the inbound host connection.<br clear="none">
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What would be the most reliable choice
that's free that would let him <br clear="none">
remote into home from my computer here
in Florida?<br clear="none">
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I found this list of more than 10
products only it's better to learn <br clear="none">
from somebody who uses a program their
happy with.<br clear="none">
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<a shape="rect" href="https://www.lifewire.com/free-remote-access-software-tools-2625161" class="yiv3504816591moz-txt-link-freetext yiv3504816591moz-txt-link-freetext" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://www.lifewire.com/free-remote-access-software-tools-2625161</a><br clear="none">
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Thanks.<br clear="none">
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