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    <p><font size="4">Before I watch the presentation, does it cover and
        recommend specific watches? I haven't read the whole Samsung
        manual yet. Not sure what the complete list of metrics it
        collects data from. I have two weeks to learn the features.<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 1/16/2022 9:25 PM, Mitchell I. Wolfe
      wrote:<br>
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      <p>I found <a
href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIbear6SICQ&list=PLi6B6bF8hCO7L91TMSPWJEM-6ztUR_qIg&index=11&t=2700s"
          target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"
          moz-do-not-send="true">this recent presentation</a> from
        Ronald Brown M.D. about diagnosing a possible Covid infection
        using a smartwatch.</p>
      <p>The studies are focused on monitoring vitals for irregularities
        while sleeping at night. The metrics were breathing rate, heart
        rate, heart rate variability, and skin temperature as early
        warning signs. Accuracy of results is an issue.</p>
      <p>-- Mitch</p>
      <p id="v1v1reply-intro">On 2022-01-15 16:08, Drew King wrote:</p>
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            <p><span style="font-size: large;">Stan,</span></p>
            <p><span style="font-size: large;">Thank you for this
                information.</span></p>
            <p><span style="font-size: large;">I just ordered my Samsung
                Galaxy Watch 4 Classic a day ago. Coming with a custom
                band only not until Jan 31st! :-(</span></p>
            <br>
            <p><span style="font-size: large;">Drew.<br>
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            <div class="v1v1v1moz-cite-prefix">On 1/15/2022 9:35 AM,
              Stan Rose wrote:</div>
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              <div dir="auto">
                <div>I have an update on the Watch 4 O2 sensor.
                  <div dir="auto"> </div>
                  <div dir="auto">My daughter dropped off a pulse
                    oximeter so we could accurately measure my and my
                    wife's </div>
                  SpO2 ( since we're both trying to kick Covid).</div>
                <div dir="auto"> </div>
                <div dir="auto">Anyways, I get the same readings on my
                  watch as on the pulse oximeter, so that was a pleasant
                  surprise! 👍</div>
                <div dir="auto"> </div>
                <div dir="auto">Stan<br>
                  <br>
                  <div class="v1v1v1gmail_quote" dir="auto">
                    <div class="v1v1v1gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Thu, Jan
                      13, 2022, 3:09 PM Stan Rose <<a
                        class="v1v1v1moz-txt-link-freetext
                        moz-txt-link-freetext"
                        href="mailto:rosesta@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer"
                        moz-do-not-send="true">rosesta@gmail.com</a>>
                      wrote:</div>
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                      <div dir="auto">Mike,</div>
                      <div dir="auto"> </div>
                      <div dir="auto">I don't currently have access to a
                        pulse oximeter but next doctor's appointment
                        I'll do the comparison.</div>
                      <div dir="auto"> </div>
                      <div dir="auto">BTW, the watch does, of course,
                        also include WiFi and Bluetooth. </div>
                      <div dir="auto"> </div>
                      <div dir="auto">I like that comment: heirloom
                        quality electronics.</div>
                      <div dir="auto"> </div>
                      <div dir="auto">Stan </div>
                      <div><br>
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                          <div class="v1v1v1gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On
                            Wed, Jan 12, 2022 at 11:09 PM Michael
                            Alexander <<a
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                            wrote:</div>
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                            #ccc solid; padding-left: 1ex;">
                            <div>Stan Rose —Have you compared your
                              Galaxy watch's O2 result to what you
                              measure, at the same time, with a pulse
                              oximeter?  Same question for Apple Watch
                              wearers.
                              <div> </div>
                              <div>      – Mike Alexander<br>
                                <br>
                                <br>
                                <p style="font-size: 15px; color:
                                  #715ffa; padding-top: 15px;
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                                  12, 2022, 9:27 PM, Jon Dreyer <<a
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                                      <p>I've drunk some of the Apple
                                        Kool-Aid (though I recently
                                        switched to a Linux laptop from
                                        Framework as I mentioned
                                        recently). Anyway, I have an
                                        iphone, so when Apple watches
                                        started having fall detection, I
                                        used that as my excuse to myself
                                        to spring for one (a series 4).
                                        (The fall detection has "worked"
                                        a few times, in that I took a
                                        few hard falls and it started
                                        warning me that it was going to
                                        call 911 before I stopped it,
                                        because I was ok.)</p>
                                      <p>I got the version with
                                        cellular. Yes, it's $120/year,
                                        but it also means I get some
                                        phone functionality even without
                                        my phone. I have to say, most of
                                        the time I have my phone with me
                                        when I'm out, but occasionally I
                                        don't and it's been handy. Not
                                        sure it was worth the money. I
                                        hate to admit that one of the
                                        best things for me about my
                                        Apple watch is that I can use it
                                        to find my iphone. I assume that
                                        would work without cellular as
                                        long as the watch is connected
                                        to wifi (or close enough to the
                                        phone to use bluetooth).</p>
                                      <p>BTW, I'm pretty sure all Apple
                                        watches have both bluetooth and
                                        wifi. I'm guessing the same is
                                        true for Android watches.</p>
                                      <p>The most amusing part of the
                                        sales pitch was when he tried to
                                        upsell me the stainless steel
                                        version over the aluminum. When
                                        he told me the steel one was
                                        "heirloom quality", I started
                                        cracking up. Of course he
                                        couldn't even promise me that
                                        Apple would support the
                                        "heirloom quality" watch for a
                                        decade. I'm pretty sure my
                                        grandchildren wouldn't be
                                        wearing mine, even if it were
                                        steel.</p>
                                      <p>-- <br clear="none">
                                        Jon "Watch: What Happens" Dreyer<br
                                          clear="none">
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                                        <div>On 1/12/22 18:41, Drew King
                                          wrote:</div>
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                                          <p>Following the recent
                                            discussions regarding the
                                            benefits of having fall
                                            detection and the general
                                            safety of having an LTE
                                            capable watch on your wrist
                                            I'm wondering where folks
                                            have landed on the topic.
                                            I'm still on the fence and
                                            need to decide before the
                                            sale ends on the 16th.</p>
                                          <p>Do we have any new smart
                                            watch wearers amongst us?</p>
                                          <ul>
                                            <li>Apple Watch, LTE or
                                              Bluetooth only?</li>
                                            <li>Samsung Watch, LTE or
                                              Bluetooth only?</li>
                                            <li>Other smartwatch?</li>
                                          </ul>
                                          <p>Personally, my cell carrier
                                            only supports the Apple LTE
                                            watch. No time frame for
                                            supporting Samsung.</p>
                                          <p>I'm very curious to know if
                                            anyone has a new Samsung
                                            Watch 4 and which version?</p>
                                          <p>The sale on Samsung ends
                                            soon, which is why I'm
                                            looking forward to some
                                            quick and current feedback
                                            from anyone that has a new
                                            Samsung watch 4.</p>
                                          <p>BTW, if you order a watch
                                            from Samsung's website you
                                            can customize the style and
                                            color of the band. If you
                                            want your watch more
                                            immediately, Best Buy is
                                            price matching Samsung's $40
                                            discount.</p>
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