<div dir="ltr">As I recall, when researchers at MIT tried to replicate the Cold Fusion experiments, they directly measured the electrical power going in (both AC and DC components) and they found no excess heat over and above the measured electric power. McKubre's practice of reckoning only the DC power and assuming no power in AC transients is an unforgivable mistake that misled him into looking for other spurious reasons to account for the small amount of excess heat. </div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Jul 6, 2022 at 12:00 PM Robert Primak <<a href="mailto:bobprimak@yahoo.com">bobprimak@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><div></div>
<div><br></div><div dir="ltr">Also mentioned has been the possibility of electrode effects. Which is a broad category, but may not have been fully controlled in the experimental design. </div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">-- Bob Primak </div><div dir="ltr"><br></div>
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On Wednesday, July 6, 2022 at 11:56:17 AM EDT, Barry Kort <<a href="mailto:barry.kort@gmail.com" target="_blank">barry.kort@gmail.com</a>> wrote:
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<div><div id="gmail-m_-5021411007939406421yiv4345648696"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">For those who might be interested in my comment about the error in reckoning the energy budget in cold fusion, here is a brief note on the subject that I wrote up about a decade ago. In short, Michael McKubre and others like him assumed only a pure DC Faradaic current was going into the cell, with no AC perturbations riding on top of the DC. Leaving out the AC component at least partially explains why more thermal energy was coming out than pure DC current going in. An audio VU meter across the terminals of McKubre's cells would have registered the audio frequency noise power that he was leaving out of his simplified energy budget model.<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><div style="text-align:center"> <b><a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" href="https://sites.google.com/site/barrykort/ac-burst-noise" target="_blank">AC Burst Noise</a></b> ~ An arcane technical analysis relevant to Cold Fusion experiments<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><div style="text-align:left">Barry Kort</div></div></div><br clear="none"><div><div id="gmail-m_-5021411007939406421yiv4345648696yqtfd96600"><div dir="ltr">On Sun, Jul 3, 2022 at 12:56 PM Jonathan Goode <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" href="mailto:jonathan.goode@gmail.com" target="_blank">jonathan.goode@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">
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