<div dir="ltr">Peter, <div>I disagree. The climate change debate shows us that alternative facts have been created and used to support pre-determined conclusions. The latest example recently shared on this list was that global warming is on "pause" and CO2 increase is not the cause of climate change. (<a href="https://www.drroyspencer.com/latest-global-temperatures/">https://www.drroyspencer.com/latest-global-temperatures/</a>)</div><div><br></div><div>Even in situations where the facts are agreed upon by all parties, there can be plenty of alternative conclusions. Sometimes these are positive and progressive, eg, the scientific method where a new theory is proposed based on existing data. Sometimes there is incorrect or flawed reasoning (e.g., stupidity) that is used to reach a different conclusion. And sometimes, there are belief- or ideologically-driven conclusions where the data and reasoning chain only serves as means to an end. </div><div><br></div><div>This gets me back to conspiracy theorists. Dismissing them as either "stupid" or "fact-deprived" ignores the harm they can cause through disinformation amplification and brainwashing. </div><div><br></div><div>I know this is typical over-thinking of a simple cartoon, but this is why I feel the cartoon is timelessly funny, IMO. </div><div><br></div><div>Jerry</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Jul 21, 2022 at 11:21 AM <<a href="mailto:palbin24@yahoo.com">palbin24@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">Fortunately in science “alternate facts” do not exist.<br><br><div dir="ltr">Peter</div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Jul 21, 2022, at 11:11 AM, <a href="mailto:carllazarus@comcast.net" target="_blank">carllazarus@comcast.net</a> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div><p class="MsoNormal">Facts don’t matter to conspiracy theorists.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div style="border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:none;border-top:1pt solid rgb(225,225,225);padding:3pt 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> LCTG <lctg-bounces+carllazarus=<a href="mailto:comcast.net@lists.toku.us" target="_blank">comcast.net@lists.toku.us</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jerry Harris<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, July 21, 2022 8:30 AM<br><b>To:</b> john rudy <<a href="mailto:jjrudy1@comcast.net" target="_blank">jjrudy1@comcast.net</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> Lex Computer Group <<a href="mailto:LCTG@lists.toku.us" target="_blank">LCTG@lists.toku.us</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Lex Computer & Tech Group/LCTG] science<u></u><u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">If only conspiracy theories or disinformation campaigns could be so easily refuted with facts. <u></u><u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, Jul 20, 2022 at 10:58 AM john rudy <<a href="mailto:jjrudy1@comcast.net" target="_blank">jjrudy1@comcast.net</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><blockquote style="border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"></p><div><image001.png></div><u></u><u></u><p></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal">===============================================<br>::The Lexington Computer and Technology Group Mailing List::<br>Reply goes to sender only; 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