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--></style></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>Certainly not Chicago! I recall my first trips through Chicago O’Hare, decades ago, and announcements on the PA system, “So-and-so, please meet your parr-dee at Gate such-and-such…” — heavily emphasized r sound, and the t almost like a d. (the opposite of a Boston accent).<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I find “broadcaster English” to be less “flat” than the typical Midwest accent.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>(Disclaimer: I grew up in New Jersey. If pressed, I can go to an aw-fiss and drink caw-fee. But doing college radio cured me of that.)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Ken Pogran<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>From: </span></b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>LCTG <lctg-bounces+pogran=alum.mit.edu@lists.toku.us> on behalf of John Rudy <jjrudy1@comcast.net><br><b>Date: </b>Monday, August 29, 2022 at 12:09 PM<br><b>To: </b>'Elaine' <scribelaine@gmail.com><br><b>Cc: </b>'Lex Computer Group' <LCTG@lists.toku.us><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Lex Computer & Tech Group/LCTG] another use for AI<br><b>Resent-From: </b>Kenneth Pogran <pogran@alum.mit.edu><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>For what it is worth this was 1965-6</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>My complaint is when HELP DESK folks, who truly need to be 100% understood, are unintelligible</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>John Rudy</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>781-861-0402</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>781-718-8334 (cell)</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><a href="mailto:John.rudy@alum.mit.edu"><span style='color:#0563C1'>John.rudy@alum.mit.edu</span></a> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b>From:</b> Elaine <scribelaine@gmail.com> <br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, August 29, 2022 12:48 PM<br><b>To:</b> john rudy <jjrudy1@comcast.net><br><b>Cc:</b> Michael Alexander <mna.ma@yahoo.com>; Lex Computer Group <LCTG@lists.toku.us><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Lex Computer & Tech Group/LCTG] another use for AI<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>... or from Detroit, where I am from. It's the flat Midwest non-accented pronunciation of the region. TV announcers are trained to use it to eliminate region bias.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>As a Speech/Language Pathology major at the University of Michigan, there was no mention of "standard" English. What we were taught was a phonetic alphabet to use for transcription when evaluating someone's language. Each phoneme has a specific pronunciation and symbol, so we can record properly exactly how someone articulates sounds, accent or not. It even allows transcription of every language with the same symbols.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>Don't you think that training people from different regions to all sound the same would lose the beautiful, multi-faceted diversity that helps give personality and authenticity to each individual and our melting pot? It would kind of be like wanting everyone to be white and Christian, and then take away cultural and regional differences as well. Once we reach that state, what would be left to talk about? May as well all be converted to rote robots, with no personality or emotion.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>- elaine</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>On Mon, Aug 29, 2022 at 12:06 PM john rudy <<a href="mailto:jjrudy1@comcast.net">jjrudy1@comcast.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Jan was a Speech Pathology major at Emerson. Freshman year they had a class that taught “standard” English. I think the objective was that everyone sounded as if they came from Chicago</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>John Rudy</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>781-861-0402</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>781-718-8334 (cell)</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><a href="mailto:John.rudy@alum.mit.edu" target="_blank"><span style='color:#0563C1'>John.rudy@alum.mit.edu</span></a> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>13 Hawthorne Lane</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:47.55pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Bedford, MA 01730-1047</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:.5in'><b>From:</b> Michael Alexander <<a href="mailto:mna.ma@yahoo.com" target="_blank">mna.ma@yahoo.com</a>> <br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, August 29, 2022 12:00 PM<br><b>To:</b> john rudy <<a href="mailto:jjrudy1@comcast.net" target="_blank">jjrudy1@comcast.net</a>>; Lex Computer Group <<a href="mailto:LCTG@lists.toku.us" target="_blank">LCTG@lists.toku.us</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Lex Computer & Tech Group/LCTG] another use for AI<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:.5in'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:.5in'>Maybe they should, also, translate some regional American accents into ordinary “American”?<br><br> – Mike A<o:p></o:p></p><p class=gmail-m-8094458767745103625yahoo-quoted-begin style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt;margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:11.5pt;color:#715FFA'>On Monday, August 29, 2022, 11:53 AM, john rudy <<a href="mailto:jjrudy1@comcast.net" target="_blank">jjrudy1@comcast.net</a>> wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div id="gmail-m_-8094458767745103625yiv6300270530"><div><div><p class=gmail-m-8094458767745103625yiv6300270530msonormal style='margin-left:.5in'><i><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><a href="https://mashable.com/article/ai-startup-makes-call-center-foreigners-sound-white#:~:text=This%20time%20around%2C%20Palo%20Alto,of%20making%20them%20sound%20white" target="_blank">https://mashable.com/article/ai-startup-makes-call-center-foreigners-sound-white#:~:text=This%20time%20around%2C%20Palo%20Alto,of%20making%20them%20sound%20white</a>.</span></i><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'> <o:p></o:p></p></div></body></html>