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<p class="p1" style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 21px; line-height: normal; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;"><span class="s1">“Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.”</span></p><p class="p1" style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 21px; line-height: normal; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;"><span class="s1"> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>– Arthur C. Clarke</span></p><br> (from Mike Alexander)<br><br><p class="yahoo-quoted-begin" style="font-size: 15px; color: #715FFA; padding-top: 15px; margin-top: 0">On Monday, December 12, 2022, 2:59 PM, Adam Broun <abroun@gmail.com> wrote:</p><blockquote class="iosymail"><div id="yiv3552680679"><div>Have you tried it out? Not a miracle but definitely impressive. <div class="yiv3552680679"><br clear="none" class="yiv3552680679"></div><div class="yiv3552680679"><br clear="none" class="yiv3552680679"><div><br clear="none" class="yiv3552680679"><blockquote type="cite" class="yiv3552680679"><div class="yiv3552680679">On Dec 12, 2022, at 12:13, Ted Kochanski <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:tedpkphd@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:tedpkphd@gmail.com" class="yiv3552680679">tedpkphd@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br clear="none" class="yiv3552680679Apple-interchange-newline"><div class="yiv3552680679"><div dir="ltr" class="yiv3552680679">John -- I've been skeptical of these assessments of AI for many years<div class="yiv3552680679"><br clear="none" class="yiv3552680679"></div><div class="yiv3552680679">It always seems "Miraculous" to someone who is not in the particular field </div><div class="yiv3552680679"><br clear="none" class="yiv3552680679"></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;" class="yiv3552680679gmail_quote">Finally, an A.I. Chatbot That Reliably Passes “the Nazi Test”<br clear="none" class="yiv3552680679">OpenAI’s new ChatGPT is scary-good, crazy-fun, and—so far—not particularly evil.<br clear="none" class="yiv3552680679">BY ALEX KANTROWITZ<br clear="none" class="yiv3552680679">DEC 02, 202211:30 AM<br clear="none" class="yiv3552680679">Financial Times journalist Dave Lee, for instance, had ChatGPT outline an interview about clean energy. He was impressed. “Prepping for an on-stage interview tomorrow, in a subject area I don’t typically cover,” Lee tweeted. “This kind of tool is just 👌”</blockquote><div class="yiv3552680679"><br clear="none" class="yiv3552680679"></div><div class="yiv3552680679">A number of years ago I performed a test of two quite bright and aware individuals of whom I had great respect to assess such:</div><div class="yiv3552680679">Candidate A -- My brother' wife was a robotics engineer [MEng from Stanford, worked with DEC and J&J appeared as "cover girl" on the front cover of Manufacturing Automation Magazine]</div><div class="yiv3552680679">Candidate B --- My wife worked in the customer service and customer service support for several local banks</div><div class="yiv3552680679"><br clear="none" class="yiv3552680679"></div><div class="yiv3552680679">Miracle A -- sophisticated software to manage the motion of several robotic arms to prevent collisions between them and also between one of them and the platforms and tools and including strangely shaped objects they were carrying</div><div class="yiv3552680679">Miracle B -- a program able to conduct a mortgage interview with a prospective mortgage client</div><div class="yiv3552680679">both suitably documented by peer-reviewed and suitably edited "recent articles" [circa the experiment]</div><div class="yiv3552680679"><br clear="none" class="yiv3552680679"></div><div class="yiv3552680679">For the challenge -- I presented Miracle A to Candidate B and Miracle B to Candidate A -- both were suitably amazed</div><div class="yiv3552680679">For the "Baseline Case" -- I presented A with A and B with B -- neither was at all impressed</div><div class="yiv3552680679"><br clear="none" class="yiv3552680679"></div><div class="yiv3552680679">I doubt whether Dave Lee knew much of anything about Energy -- Clean or otherwise</div><div class="yiv3552680679"><br clear="none" class="yiv3552680679"></div><div class="yiv3552680679">Ted</div></div><br 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