<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><font size="4">Frank,</font><div><font size="4"><br></font></div><div><font size="4">I may be ignorant of some things -- no doubt</font></div><div><font size="4"><br></font></div><div><font size="4">However -- if you collect water from run-off -- it has to go somewhere</font></div><div><font size="4">Either you dump it into a local water course or you carry it onward to a more remote water course and then you dump it</font></div><div><font size="4">To the best of my understanding we are not dumping our surface water anywhere along the way as that would be a violation of many regulations due to the oil, and other street waste which has to be treated before you dump it</font></div><div><font size="4"><br></font></div><div><font size="4">When I lived in Austin Texas there were developments in unincorp[orated territory on the periphery of the City of Austin hoping one day to become annexed.  The developers procured "packaged Treatment plants" to process the runoff before dumping it into local creels and dry creekbeds</font></div><div><font size="4">These packaged plants were separate from the variou means including septic tanks and leaching fields used to handle the sanitary waste from the homes in the subdivisions</font></div><div><font size="4"><br></font></div><div><font size="4">Lexington has had a sewer system for quite a while and it connect into the MWRA's major sewer interceptors which typically run alongside rivers and streams before ultimately being processed @ Deer Island and dumped into Massachusetts Bay beyond Winthrop</font></div><div><font size="4"><br></font></div><div><font size="4">I found this on a Google search of MWRA Lexington sewer</font></div><div><font size="4">its from a presentation on updates to the 2018 MWRA Master plan  -- apparently presented to some official body February 12, 2019</font></div><div><font size="4"><a href="https://www.mwra.com/monthly/wac/presentations/2019/021219-masterplan-widescreen.pdf">https://www.mwra.com/monthly/wac/presentations/2019/021219-masterplan-widescreen.pdf</a><br></font></div><div><font size="4"><br></font></div><div><font size="4">$73M Programmed in CIP FY19‐28 for Pump<br>Station/CSO Facility Rehabilitations<br><b>― Alewife PS (in construction)</b><br>― Castle Island PS<br>― Cottage Farm CSO<br>― Prison Point CSO<br>― Preliminary Design for Next<br>5 Older Facilities<br></font></div><div><br></div><div><font size="4">There is a photo of the Alewife pump station and a high-level system map showing the interceptor connecting through Arlinton to Lexington</font></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><font size="4">However -- despite my spending over 30 minutes searching -- It's actually quite difficult to track down much on the MWRA sewer system</font></div><div><font size="4"><br></font></div><div><font size="4">Perhaps we should get someone inside the MWRA to talk to us about it</font></div><div><font size="4"><br></font></div><div><font size="4">Ted</font></div><div><font size="4"><br></font></div><div><font size="4"><br></font></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Jan 16, 2023 at 8:19 AM Frank Sandy <<a href="mailto:fsandy9@comcast.net">fsandy9@comcast.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
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        The sewer system and the storm water drainage system are
    completely separate in Lexington.   Older systems in some other
    communities are still partially combined.  However, even in
    Lexington, there are some people that illegally connect their sump
    pumps to their toilets and the Town's sewer system.<br>
    <br>
    Frank Sandy<br>
    <br>
    <div>On 1/15/2023 8:44 PM, Bill Haley wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="auto">As far as I know the storm water run off system is
        not connected to the waste water treatment system.</div>
      <div dir="auto"><br>
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      <div dir="auto">Bill</div>
      <div><br>
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          <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Jan 15, 2023 at
            11:44 AM Ted Kochanski <<a href="mailto:tedpkphd@gmail.com" target="_blank">tedpkphd@gmail.com</a>>
            wrote:<br>
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            <div dir="ltr">John,
              <div><br>
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              <div>There is a big problem with this data being compared
                over long periods of time</div>
              <div>Some of the waste water includes surface run-off and
                some mostly doesn't</div>
              <div>hence, since the y axis is a concentration of virus
                in the water -- if the amount of "active water" from
                households is diluted by surface run-off because of
                recent rain or even more complicating melting snow mixed
                with recent rain -- how can you tell?</div>
              <div><br>
              </div>
              <div>I suggest that the data suggests that last year there
                was a real spike and that recently there is just "noise"
                in the system</div>
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              <div>Ted</div>
              <div><br>
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              <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Jan 13, 2023 at
                8:17 PM <<a href="mailto:jjrudy1@comcast.net" target="_blank">jjrudy1@comcast.net</a>>
                wrote:<br>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:16pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Don’t
                          worry about the y-axis, just the shape of the
                          curve.  The article gave no indication as to
                          what is “good”.  In the later graph look at
                          the winter spikes.  The big problem was a year
                          ago.</span></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">John
                          Rudy</span></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">781-861-0402</span></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">781-718-8334 
                          cell</span></p>
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