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<div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><div><div style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;">I think 4.0 sounds very interesting, but for residential use cases, wouldn't the ISP have to be willing to support higher upstream rates through other parts of their network, and not so much the "last mile?"</div><div style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;"><br clear="none"></div><div style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;">-Rich</div></div><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Good point, Rich. And quite probably there will need to be internal upgrades within Comcast's network facilities. </div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">To All -- </div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">So now they want to skip 6G-9G and go straight to 10G? We already have confusion over WiFi5, WiFi6, all the USB 3 name changes, and now this? Wasn't Microsoft skipping Windows 9 bad enough? And folks still calling the 5 GHz home WiFi band "5G wireless"? </div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">What is our technical language coming to??</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">One day in Tech we won't be able to say anything other than IngSoc*. And even that word will be subject to a million different interpretations. </div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">It's like the madness of declaring new "generations" every time there's a new TikTok trend. Pure ad-hype overriding meaningful communication. A generation is currently 27 years in most advanced (post-)industrial societies$.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">-- Bob Primak </div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">*IngSoc is a reference to George Orwell's book "1984" in which all spoken language was reduced to that one word.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">$ The social science definition of a human generation is the average span in years between the birth of a biological female and the age at which she can be expected to give birth to her first child. This will be much shorter in less advanced countries and regions than in North America and Western Europe. And longer in Japan and Northern Europe than in Turkey and Mexico. </div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div>
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On Wednesday, February 8, 2023 at 01:27:58 PM EST, Rich Moffitt <rich@richmoffitt.org> wrote:
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<div><div id="yiv8213835469"><div><div dir="ltr">I thought <a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DOCSIS">DOCSIS </a>3.1 already supported upstream channel bonding upwards of 1 Gbit/s. I recall setting up an office in downtown Boston in 2012 that used DOCSIS 3.0 and the Comcast Business connection was 100/100 Mbit/s symmetrical.<div><br clear="none"></div><div>I think 4.0 sounds very interesting, but for residential use cases, wouldn't the ISP have to be willing to support higher upstream rates through other parts of their network, and not so much the "last mile?"</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>-Rich</div><div><br clear="none"></div></div><br clear="none"><div class="yiv8213835469gmail_quote"><div id="yiv8213835469yqt65285" class="yiv8213835469yqt8432040569"><div dir="ltr" class="yiv8213835469gmail_attr">On Wed, Feb 8, 2023 at 12:51 PM Drew King <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:dking65@kingconsulting.us" target="_blank" href="mailto:dking65@kingconsulting.us">dking65@kingconsulting.us</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;" class="yiv8213835469gmail_quote">
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<p><font size="4">I'm anxiously waiting for DOCSIS 4.0. This is the
specific technology that allows those of us on Comcast, and
other non-FIOS providers, to finally get more than a measly
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<p><font size="4"><a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="https://www.cablelabs.com/technologies/docsis-4-0-technology">https://www.cablelabs.com/technologies/docsis-4-0-technology</a><br clear="none">
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<p style="margin:0px 0px 1em;padding:0px;border:0px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;font-stretch:inherit;line-height:1.5;font-family:sans-serif;font-size:16px;vertical-align:baseline;color:rgb(51,51,51);letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;">Besides allowing for
ultra-fast speeds, one of the best things about 10G technology
(another name for 10 gigabit per second internet) is that<font color="#0000ff"><b> it won’t require any new connections to be
installed, which means you won’t have employees from your ISP
digging up your yard.</b></font></p>
<p style="margin:0px 0px 1em;padding:0px;border:0px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;font-stretch:inherit;line-height:1.5;font-family:sans-serif;font-size:16px;vertical-align:baseline;color:rgb(51,51,51);letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;">Now that Comcast has
demonstrated how DOCSIS 4.0 modems and 10G can work together to
deliver multi-gig internet speeds, the company is starting a <font size="5" color="#0000ff"><b>nationwide rollout which it says
will reach 50 million homes and businesses in the U.S. before
the end of 2025.</b></font></p>
<p style="margin:0px 0px 1em;padding:0px;border:0px none;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;font-stretch:inherit;line-height:1.5;font-family:sans-serif;font-size:16px;vertical-align:baseline;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;"><font color="#0000ff">If
you’re a Comcast customer looking for faster internet speeds,
the company plans to begin offering 2-gig plans next year.</font></p>
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<div>On 2/8/2023 11:59 AM, Larry Wittig
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<div style="font-family:georgia, serif;" class="yiv8213835469gmail_default">They
have a 40 km cable near Phily, and it can transmit in both
directions simultaneously. The article says they are getting
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