<div dir="auto"><div dir="auto">As I write this, installation crews are working outside on my street (Charlotte, NC) laying the cables for Google Fiber. The service will be 1 TB down/1 TB up for $70/month or 2 TB down/1TB up for $100/month.<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">That will include a full house WiFi 6e mesh network and all installation. It does not include any TV service so it will require also going with appropriate streaming services.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Stan</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Feb 8, 2023, 2:31 PM Drew King (<a href="mailto:dking65@kingconsulting.us" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">dking65@kingconsulting.us</a>) <<a href="mailto:dking65@kingconsulting.us" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">dking65@kingconsulting.us</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div dir="auto"> Correct. According to the specifications, they should be able to offer residential customers bandwidth more like fios. For whatever reason, every time I have asked to pay more money to get more speed they have turned me down.<br><br><br> If Comcast practically could sell you more than 25MB per sec up stream residential today they would be offering it to people willing to pay for it, only they're not. I don't know of any residential Comcast customers that have more than 25MB up.<br><br>4.0 Is going to change things In such a way that it will become possible for them to realistically offer and deliver on higher upload speeds than what they are willing to offer today.<br><br> Something is holding them back from offering residential customers higher bandwidth for a higher price today.</div><div dir="auto"><div>-- <br>Drew King<br><br></div></div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="auto">On February 8, 2023 1:27:31 PM EST, Rich Moffitt <<a href="mailto:rich@richmoffitt.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">rich@richmoffitt.org</a>> wrote:</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">I thought <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DOCSIS" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">DOCSIS </a>3.1 already supported upstream channel bonding upwards of 1 Gbit/s. I recall setting up an office in downtown Boston in 2012 that used DOCSIS 3.0 and the Comcast Business connection was 100/100 Mbit/s symmetrical.<div><br></div><div>I think 4.0 sounds very interesting, but for residential use cases, wouldn't the ISP have to be willing to support higher upstream rates through other parts of their network, and not so much the "last mile?"</div><div><br></div><div>-Rich</div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Feb 8, 2023 at 12:51 PM Drew King <<a href="mailto:dking65@kingconsulting.us" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">dking65@kingconsulting.us</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p><font size="4">I'm anxiously waiting for DOCSIS 4.0. This is the
specific technology that allows those of us on Comcast, and
other non-FIOS providers, to finally get more than a measly
25 MB/sec upload speed. <br>
</font></p>
<p><font size="4"><a href="https://www.cablelabs.com/technologies/docsis-4-0-technology" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.cablelabs.com/technologies/docsis-4-0-technology</a><br>
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<p><img alt="" width="645" height="308"></p>
<p style="margin:0px 0px 1em;padding:0px;border:0px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-numeric:inherit;font-variant-east-asian:inherit;font-weight:400;font-stretch:inherit;line-height:1.5;font-family:"Open Sans",sans-serif;font-size:16px;vertical-align:baseline;color:rgb(51,51,51);letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">Besides allowing for
ultra-fast speeds, one of the best things about 10G technology
(another name for 10 gigabit per second internet) is that<font color="#0000ff"><b> it won’t require any new connections to be
installed, which means you won’t have employees from your ISP
digging up your yard.</b></font></p>
<p style="margin:0px 0px 1em;padding:0px;border:0px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-numeric:inherit;font-variant-east-asian:inherit;font-weight:400;font-stretch:inherit;line-height:1.5;font-family:"Open Sans",sans-serif;font-size:16px;vertical-align:baseline;color:rgb(51,51,51);letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">Now that Comcast has
demonstrated how DOCSIS 4.0 modems and 10G can work together to
deliver multi-gig internet speeds, the company is starting a <font size="5" color="#0000ff"><b>nationwide rollout which it says
will reach 50 million homes and businesses in the U.S. before
the end of 2025.</b></font></p>
<p style="margin:0px 0px 1em;padding:0px;border:0px none;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-numeric:inherit;font-variant-east-asian:inherit;font-weight:400;font-stretch:inherit;line-height:1.5;font-family:"Open Sans",sans-serif;font-size:16px;vertical-align:baseline;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><font color="#0000ff">If
you’re a Comcast customer looking for faster internet speeds,
the company plans to begin offering 2-gig plans next year.</font></p>
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<div>On 2/8/2023 11:59 AM, Larry Wittig
wrote:<br>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif"><a href="https://corporate.comcast.com/press/releases/comcast-first-isp-hollow-core-fiber-faster-speed-lower-latency" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://corporate.comcast.com/press/releases/comcast-first-isp-hollow-core-fiber-faster-speed-lower-latency</a><br>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif">They
have a 40 km cable near Phily, and it can transmit in both
directions simultaneously. The article says they are getting
ready for 10G.</div>
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