<div dir="ltr">I'm probably not responding to the latest email because some go to my inbox and others to spam... but if there is nothing obviously wrong with the measurement, then you may have a chemical reaction which consumes solid mass and produces gas which escapes. If there were some way to measure an increase in the pressure generated in a closed container you could test this. This would be the reverse of the kind of thing that happens when plants grow --- they appear to generate biomass out of nothing. <br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Feb 13, 2023 at 8:55 AM Steve Isenberg <<a href="mailto:smisenberg@gmail.com">smisenberg@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(11,83,148)">The fiber is "Optifiber compare to Benefiber(r)" "Prebiotic Fiber Supplement" (yes, prebiotic, not probiotic)<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(11,83,148)">Ingredient: Wheat Dextrin. Contains wheat ingredients. Gluten-free, contains less than 20ppm gluten.<br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Feb 13, 2023 at 8:45 AM Robert Primak <<a href="mailto:bobprimak@yahoo.com" target="_blank">bobprimak@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div style="font-family:Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><div></div>
<div dir="ltr">And no probiotics in the fiber? (I would think none.)</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">-- Bob Primak</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div><br></div>
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On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 08:43:58 AM EST, Steve Isenberg <<a href="mailto:smisenberg@gmail.com" target="_blank">smisenberg@gmail.com</a>> wrote:
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<div dir="ltr">Steve -- </div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">Does your almond milk contain probiotics?</div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">Probiotics are by definition live cultures. They will consume polysaccharides like soluble fiber.</div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">-- Bob Primak </div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div>
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On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 07:37:28 AM EST, arnold peterson <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" href="mailto:alp4982@gmail.com" target="_blank">alp4982@gmail.com</a>> wrote:
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<div><div id="m_6993070120874102372m_-4998366531559817222yiv0876646367m_-7751269629008182870yiv5840255959"><div><div dir="ltr">I wonder if heat is produced by this reaction, then I could understand a weight loss. <div><br clear="none"></div><div>There is another possibility. I have a food scale that I weigh my ground coffee. Sometimes it seems like the scale takes time for the reading to settle down. </div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>I find that when I use a larger amount of coffee this is less of a problem. le: If using 20-25 g this is less likely to happen than when I use 10g, which happens almost all the time.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>The scale I use is a weight watchers scale. </div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>I think a balance scale might be a way for another more reliable method. </div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>I think this is a physics problem, of the scale. My scale likes to move in 2 g increments. -arnie</div><div><br clear="none"></div></div><br clear="none"><div><div dir="ltr">On Sun, Feb 12, 2023 at 10:00 PM Larry Wittig <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" href="mailto:9423lew@gmail.com" target="_blank">9423lew@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:georgia,serif">Can you try it again in a jar with a screw-on top that was included when you weighed the jar and milk. Right after you add the power screw the top on tight.</div><div style="font-family:georgia,serif"><br clear="none"></div><div style="font-family:georgia,serif">Why did you do this in the first place -- did you read that this might happen?</div></div><br clear="none"><div><div dir="ltr">On Sun, Feb 12, 2023 at 6:42 PM Steve Isenberg <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" href="mailto:smisenberg@gmail.com" target="_blank">smisenberg@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-size:small;color:rgb(11,83,148)"><span style="font-family:sans sans-serif">Gentlepeople, especially any chemistry or physics experts:</span></div><div style="font-size:small;color:rgb(11,83,148)"><span style="font-family:sans sans-serif"><br clear="none"></span></div><div style="font-size:small;color:rgb(11,83,148)"><span style="font-family:sans sans-serif">When I add 5 grams powdered fiber to almond milk, the added weight starts dropping immediately from 5 grams.<br clear="none"></span></div><div style="font-size:small;color:rgb(11,83,148)"><span style="font-family:sans sans-serif"><br clear="none"></span></div><div style="font-size:small;color:rgb(11,83,148)"><span style="font-family:sans sans-serif">Materials are powdered fiber supplement (Optifiber from Costco, wheat dextrin) and unsweetened almond milk (also from Costco).</span></div><div style="font-size:small;color:rgb(11,83,148)"><span style="font-family:sans sans-serif"><br clear="none"></span></div><div style="font-size:small;color:rgb(11,83,148)"><span style="font-family:sans sans-serif">Procedure. I take a small shot glass container and put it on the scale, and zero the scale. Add 5 grams of powdered fiber to the glass container, and it stays at 5g. I set the glass container aside.<br clear="none"></span></div><div style="font-size:small;color:rgb(11,83,148)"><span style="font-family:sans sans-serif">Then I take a container of about 8 oz of cold almond milk and put it on the scale, zero the scale, and add the 5g powder into the almond milk. I don't stir.<br clear="none"></span></div><div style="font-size:small;color:rgb(11,83,148)"><span style="font-family:sans sans-serif">At first the scale reads 5g, then immediately starts to drop in weight, to 4.5, 4.0, 3.8, etc within the first minute.</span></div><div style="font-size:small;color:rgb(11,83,148)"><span style="font-family:sans sans-serif"><br clear="none"></span></div><div style="font-size:small;color:rgb(11,83,148)"><span style="font-family:sans sans-serif">Does anyone know what's happening, why is the weight dropping?<br clear="none"></span></div><div style="font-size:small;color:rgb(11,83,148)"><span style="font-family:sans sans-serif"><br clear="none"></span></div><div style="font-size:small;color:rgb(11,83,148)"><span style="font-family:sans sans-serif">This is not a joke, I am asking a serious question. I can do this live over zoom sometime, and in person. Any thoughts?</span></div><div style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(11,83,148)"><span style="font-family:sans sans-serif">-steve</span><br clear="none"></div><br clear="none"></div>
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