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    <p>For what's it's worth, I go along with those who think there is a
      balance phenomenon occurring. You are adding 5 g to approximately
      200 g of liquid; a 2.5% increase in weight and seeing a drop of
      weight of at least 4% from the weight you just added, in a short
      period of time. Unless my calculations are severely off, that's a
      substantial chemical reaction change with liberation of mass and
      you should also be able to observe otherwise: e.g., fizzing, heat
      liberation, color change, etc. I would try your experiment with
      another scale; preferable non-digital, if possible. Or change the
      order of the procedure (probably not easily done). Is your scale
      going through some sort of "re-zeroing"?</p>
    <p>Best, Dick Wagner <br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2/13/2023 8:52 AM, Steve Isenberg
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        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet
          ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#0b5394">The fiber is
          "Optifiber compare to Benefiber(r)" "Prebiotic Fiber
          Supplement" (yes, prebiotic, not probiotic)<br>
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        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet
          ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#0b5394">Ingredient: Wheat
          Dextrin.  Contains wheat ingredients. Gluten-free, contains
          less than 20ppm gluten.<br>
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Feb 13, 2023 at 8:45
          AM Robert Primak <<a href="mailto:bobprimak@yahoo.com"
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          wrote:<br>
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              <div dir="ltr">And no probiotics in the fiber? (I would
                think none.)</div>
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              <div dir="ltr">-- Bob Primak</div>
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                <div> On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 08:43:58 AM EST,
                  Steve Isenberg <<a
                    href="mailto:smisenberg@gmail.com" target="_blank"
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                          ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(11,83,148)">Nothing
                          listed as probiotic.</div>
                        <div style="font-family:trebuchet
                          ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(11,83,148)">almonds,
                          calcium carbonate, sea salt, sunflower
                          lecithin, locust bean gum, gellan gum, vit E,
                          zinc gluconate, vit A, vit D2, B2, B12.<br
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                          <div dir="ltr">On Mon, Feb 13, 2023 at 8:31 AM
                            Robert Primak <<a rel="nofollow noopener
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                                <div dir="ltr">Steve -- </div>
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                                <div dir="ltr">Does your almond milk
                                  contain probiotics?</div>
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                                <div dir="ltr">Probiotics are by
                                  definition live cultures. They will
                                  consume polysaccharides like soluble
                                  fiber.</div>
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                                <div dir="ltr">-- Bob Primak </div>
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                                  <div> On Monday, February 13, 2023 at
                                    07:37:28 AM EST, arnold peterson
                                    <<a rel="nofollow noopener
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                                    wrote: </div>
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                                        <div dir="ltr">I wonder if heat
                                          is produced by this reaction,
                                          then I could understand a
                                          weight loss. 
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                                          <div>There is another
                                            possibility. I have a food
                                            scale that I weigh my ground
                                            coffee. Sometimes it seems
                                            like the scale takes time
                                            for the reading to settle
                                            down. </div>
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                                          <div>I find that when I use a
                                            larger amount of coffee this
                                            is less of a problem.  le:
                                            If using 20-25 g this is
                                            less likely to happen than
                                            when I use 10g, which
                                            happens almost all the time.</div>
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                                          </div>
                                          <div>The scale I use is a
                                            weight watchers scale. </div>
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                                          </div>
                                          <div>I think a balance scale
                                            might be a way for another
                                            more reliable method. </div>
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                                          </div>
                                          <div>I think this is a physics
                                            problem, of the scale. My
                                            scale likes to move in 2 g
                                            increments.  -arnie</div>
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                                          <div dir="ltr">On Sun, Feb 12,
                                            2023 at 10:00 PM Larry
                                            Wittig <<a rel="nofollow
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                                                style="font-family:georgia,serif">Can
                                                you try it again in a
                                                jar with a screw-on top
                                                that was included when
                                                you weighed the jar and
                                                milk.  Right after you
                                                add the power screw the
                                                top on tight.</div>
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                                                style="font-family:georgia,serif">Why
                                                did you do this in the
                                                first place -- did you
                                                read that this might
                                                happen?</div>
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                                              <div dir="ltr">On Sun, Feb
                                                12, 2023 at 6:42 PM
                                                Steve Isenberg <<a
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style="font-family:sans sans-serif">Gentlepeople, especially any
                                                      chemistry or
                                                      physics experts:</span></div>
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                                                    style="font-size:small;color:rgb(11,83,148)"><span
style="font-family:sans sans-serif">When I add 5 grams powdered fiber to
                                                      almond milk, the
                                                      added weight
                                                      starts dropping
                                                      immediately from 5
                                                      grams.<br
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                                                  <div
                                                    style="font-size:small;color:rgb(11,83,148)"><span
style="font-family:sans sans-serif">Materials are powdered fiber
                                                      supplement
                                                      (Optifiber from
                                                      Costco, wheat
                                                      dextrin) and
                                                      unsweetened almond
                                                      milk (also from
                                                      Costco).</span></div>
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style="font-family:sans sans-serif"><br clear="none">
                                                    </span></div>
                                                  <div
                                                    style="font-size:small;color:rgb(11,83,148)"><span
style="font-family:sans sans-serif">Procedure.  I take a small shot
                                                      glass container
                                                      and put it on the
                                                      scale, and zero
                                                      the scale.  Add 5
                                                      grams of powdered
                                                      fiber to the glass
                                                      container, and it
                                                      stays at 5g.  I
                                                      set the glass
                                                      container aside.<br
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                                                    </span></div>
                                                  <div
                                                    style="font-size:small;color:rgb(11,83,148)"><span
style="font-family:sans sans-serif">Then I take a container of about 8
                                                      oz of cold almond
                                                      milk and put it on
                                                      the scale, zero
                                                      the scale, and add
                                                      the 5g powder into
                                                      the almond milk. 
                                                      I don't stir.<br
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                                                    </span></div>
                                                  <div
                                                    style="font-size:small;color:rgb(11,83,148)"><span
style="font-family:sans sans-serif">At first the scale reads 5g, then
                                                      immediately starts
                                                      to drop in weight,
                                                      to 4.5, 4.0, 3.8,
                                                      etc within the
                                                      first minute.</span></div>
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style="font-family:sans sans-serif"><br clear="none">
                                                    </span></div>
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                                                    style="font-size:small;color:rgb(11,83,148)"><span
style="font-family:sans sans-serif">Does anyone know what's happening,
                                                      why is the weight
                                                      dropping?<br
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                                                    </span></div>
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style="font-family:sans sans-serif"><br clear="none">
                                                    </span></div>
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                                                    style="font-size:small;color:rgb(11,83,148)"><span
style="font-family:sans sans-serif">This is not a joke, I am asking a
                                                      serious question. 
                                                      I can do this live
                                                      over zoom
                                                      sometime, and in
                                                      person. Any
                                                      thoughts?</span></div>
                                                  <div
                                                    style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(11,83,148)"><span
style="font-family:sans sans-serif">-steve</span><br clear="none">
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