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    <p>Feels like an act of Maxwell's Demon 😉.</p>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2/13/23 8:45 AM, Steve Isenberg
      wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:CAL0r4CDjwmS3+7-1BRwov6tGv_+HzF-SkhqXY64GJxv-_YSg0Q@mail.gmail.com">
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        <div class="gmail_default">Batteries are relatively new, but I
          don't think that's the issue.</div>
        <div class="gmail_default">Put 5g fiber in shot glass, doesn't
          change from 5g.</div>
        <div class="gmail_default">Put almond milk in container and zero
          it, doesn't change from zero.</div>
        <div class="gmail_default">Add fiber to almond milk, see 5g then
          rapidly drops.<br>
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Feb 13, 2023 at 8:34
          AM Charles H. Holbrow <<a
            href="mailto:cholbrow@colgate.edu" moz-do-not-send="true"
            class="moz-txt-link-freetext">cholbrow@colgate.edu</a>>
          wrote:<br>
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            <div dir="ltr">Time for new batteries in your scale?</div>
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              <blockquote type="cite">On Feb 13, 2023, at 8:33 AM,
                Robert Primak <<a href="mailto:bobprimak@yahoo.com"
                  target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                  class="moz-txt-link-freetext">bobprimak@yahoo.com</a>>
                wrote:<br>
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                  <div dir="ltr">Steve -- </div>
                  <div dir="ltr"><br>
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                  <div dir="ltr">Does your almond milk contain
                    probiotics?</div>
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                  <div dir="ltr">Probiotics are by definition live
                    cultures. They will consume polysaccharides like
                    soluble fiber.</div>
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                  <div dir="ltr">-- Bob Primak </div>
                  <div dir="ltr"><br>
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                    <div> On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 07:37:28 AM
                      EST, arnold peterson <<a
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                      wrote: </div>
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                          <div dir="ltr">I wonder if heat is produced by
                            this reaction, then I could understand a
                            weight loss. 
                            <div><br>
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                            <div>There is another possibility. I have a
                              food scale that I weigh my ground coffee.
                              Sometimes it seems like the scale takes
                              time for the reading to settle down. </div>
                            <div><br>
                            </div>
                            <div>I find that when I use a larger amount
                              of coffee this is less of a problem.  le:
                              If using 20-25 g this is less likely to
                              happen than when I use 10g, which happens
                              almost all the time.</div>
                            <div><br>
                            </div>
                            <div>The scale I use is a weight watchers
                              scale. </div>
                            <div><br>
                            </div>
                            <div>I think a balance scale might be a way
                              for another more reliable method. </div>
                            <div><br>
                            </div>
                            <div>I think this is a physics problem, of
                              the scale. My scale likes to move in 2 g
                              increments.  -arnie</div>
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                            <div dir="ltr">On Sun, Feb 12, 2023 at 10:00
                              PM Larry Wittig <<a rel="nofollow
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                              wrote:<br>
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                                <div>Can you try it again in a jar with
                                  a screw-on top that was included when
                                  you weighed the jar and milk.  Right
                                  after you add the power screw the top
                                  on tight.</div>
                                <div><br>
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                                <div>Why did you do this in the first
                                  place -- did you read that this might
                                  happen?</div>
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                                <div dir="ltr">On Sun, Feb 12, 2023 at
                                  6:42 PM Steve Isenberg <<a
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                                    <div><span>Gentlepeople, especially
                                        any chemistry or physics
                                        experts:</span></div>
                                    <div><span><br>
                                      </span></div>
                                    <div><span>When I add 5 grams
                                        powdered fiber to almond milk,
                                        the added weight starts dropping
                                        immediately from 5 grams.<br>
                                      </span></div>
                                    <div><span><br>
                                      </span></div>
                                    <div><span>Materials are powdered
                                        fiber supplement (Optifiber from
                                        Costco, wheat dextrin) and
                                        unsweetened almond milk (also
                                        from Costco).</span></div>
                                    <div><span><br>
                                      </span></div>
                                    <div><span>Procedure.  I take a
                                        small shot glass container and
                                        put it on the scale, and zero
                                        the scale.  Add 5 grams of
                                        powdered fiber to the glass
                                        container, and it stays at 5g. 
                                        I set the glass container aside.<br>
                                      </span></div>
                                    <div><span>Then I take a container
                                        of about 8 oz of cold almond
                                        milk and put it on the scale,
                                        zero the scale, and add the 5g
                                        powder into the almond milk.  I
                                        don't stir.<br>
                                      </span></div>
                                    <div><span>At first the scale reads
                                        5g, then immediately starts to
                                        drop in weight, to 4.5, 4.0,
                                        3.8, etc within the first
                                        minute.</span></div>
                                    <div><span><br>
                                      </span></div>
                                    <div><span>Does anyone know what's
                                        happening, why is the weight
                                        dropping?<br>
                                      </span></div>
                                    <div><span><br>
                                      </span></div>
                                    <div><span>This is not a joke, I am
                                        asking a serious question.  I
                                        can do this live over zoom
                                        sometime, and in person. Any
                                        thoughts?</span></div>
                                    <div><span>-steve</span><br>
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