<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif">If you're going to bake, as I suggested,it might be good to first remove the PCB.</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Feb 20, 2023 at 1:59 PM Larry Wittig <<a href="mailto:9423lew@gmail.com">9423lew@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif">One easy way to erase the HDD is to bake it in your oven -- say 400 degrees F for 1 hour.</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Feb 20, 2023 at 1:09 PM Ted Kochanski <<a href="mailto:tedpkphd@gmail.com" target="_blank">tedpkphd@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">All,<div><br></div><div>It all depends on what is the sensitivity of the stuff on the disk -- if it is National Security stuff -- then crushing or grinding, melting, etc is what you to make sure nothing can be recovered</div><div>I we are talking bank accounts, and such that is far too too much effort for the reduction of risk -- there are commercial programs which do a fairly good job</div><div><br></div><div>for example the now Infamous Bleachbit</div><div>from the wikipedia article</div><div>BleachBit is a free and open-source disk space cleaner, privacy manager, and computer system optimizer. The BleachBit source code is licensed under the GNU General Public License version 3.<br><br>History<br>BleachBit was first publicly released on 24 December 2008 for Linux systems.[3] The 0.2.1 release created some controversy[4] by suggesting Linux needed a registry cleaner.<br><br>Version 0.4.0 introduced CleanerML,[5] a standards-based markup language for writing new cleaners. </div><div>On May 29, 2009, BleachBit version 0.5.0 added support for Windows XP, Windows Vista, and Windows 7.[6] </div><div>On September 16, 2009, version 0.6.4 introduced command-line interface support.[7]<br><br>BleachBit is available for download through its website and the repositories of many Linux distributions.</div><div><table style="font-size:12.32px;border:1px solid rgb(162,169,177);border-spacing:3px;background-color:rgb(248,249,250);color:black;margin:0.5em 0px 0.5em 1em;padding:0.2em;clear:right;line-height:1.5em;width:22em;font-family:sans-serif"><tbody><tr><td style="vertical-align:top"><span><a rel="nofollow" href="https://www.bleachbit.org/" style="color:rgb(51,102,204);text-decoration-line:none;background:url("") 100% 50%/0.857em no-repeat;padding-right:1em" target="_blank"><br>www.bleachbit.org</a></span></td></tr></tbody></table><br>Features<br></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:none;padding:0px"><div>Identifying and removing Web cache, HTTP cookies, URL history, temporary files log files and Flash cookies for Firefox, Opera, Safari, APT, Google Chrome</div><div>Removing unused localizations (also called locale files) which are translations of software</div><div>Shredding files and wiping unallocated disk space to minimize data remanence</div><div>Wiping unallocated disk space to improve data compression ratio for disk image backups</div><div>Vacuuming Firefox's SQLite database which suffers fragmentation</div><div>Command line interface for scripting automation and headless operation</div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><table style="font-size:12.32px;border:1px solid rgb(162,169,177);border-spacing:3px;background-color:rgb(248,249,250);color:black;margin:0.5em 0px 0.5em 1em;padding:0.2em;clear:right;line-height:1.5em;width:22em;font-family:sans-serif"><tbody><tr><th scope="row" style="vertical-align:top;text-align:left;white-space:nowrap">Written in</th><td style="vertical-align:top"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Python_(programming_language)" title="Python (programming language)" style="text-decoration-line:none;color:rgb(51,102,204);background:none" target="_blank">Python</a></td></tr><tr><th scope="row" style="vertical-align:top;text-align:left;white-space:nowrap"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operating_system" title="Operating system" style="text-decoration-line:none;color:rgb(51,102,204);background:none" target="_blank">Operating system</a></th><td style="vertical-align:top"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Windows" title="Microsoft Windows" style="text-decoration-line:none;color:rgb(51,102,204);background:none" target="_blank">Microsoft Windows</a><br><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MacOS" title="MacOS" style="text-decoration-line:none;color:rgb(51,102,204);background:none" target="_blank">macOS</a><br><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux" title="Linux" style="text-decoration-line:none;color:rgb(51,102,204);background:none" target="_blank">Linux</a></td></tr><tr><th scope="row" style="vertical-align:top;text-align:left;white-space:nowrap"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_size" title="File size" style="text-decoration-line:none;color:rgb(51,102,204);background:none" target="_blank">Size</a></th><td style="vertical-align:top">11.5-12.2 <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megabyte" title="Megabyte" style="text-decoration-line:none;color:rgb(51,102,204);background:none" target="_blank">MB</a> (Windows)</td></tr><tr><th scope="row" style="vertical-align:top;text-align:left;white-space:nowrap">Available in</th><td style="vertical-align:top">64 languages<sup id="m_3767864098514526084m_-4231384344192402697gmail-cite_ref-2" style="line-height:1;unicode-bidi:isolate;white-space:nowrap;font-size:9.856px"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BleachBit#cite_note-2" style="text-decoration-line:none;color:rgb(51,102,204);background:none" target="_blank">[2]</a></sup></td></tr><tr><th scope="row" style="vertical-align:top;text-align:left;white-space:nowrap"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_categories#Categorization_approaches" title="Software categories" style="text-decoration-line:none;color:rgb(51,102,204);background:none" target="_blank">Type</a></th><td style="vertical-align:top"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disk_cleaner" title="Disk cleaner" style="text-decoration-line:none;color:rgb(51,102,204);background:none" target="_blank">Disk cleaner</a></td></tr><tr><th scope="row" style="vertical-align:top;text-align:left;white-space:nowrap"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_license" title="Software license" style="text-decoration-line:none;color:rgb(51,102,204);background:none" target="_blank">License</a></th><td style="vertical-align:top"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_General_Public_License" title="GNU General Public License" style="text-decoration-line:none;color:rgb(51,102,204);background:none" target="_blank">GNU General Public License</a></td></tr><tr><th scope="row" style="vertical-align:top;text-align:left;white-space:nowrap">Website</th><td style="vertical-align:top"><span><a rel="nofollow" href="https://www.bleachbit.org/" style="text-decoration-line:none;color:rgb(51,102,204);background:url("") 100% 50%/0.857em no-repeat;padding-right:1em" target="_blank">www.bleachbit.org</a></span></td></tr></tbody></table></div><div><br></div><div>Ted</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Feb 20, 2023 at 12:30 PM Edward Lipman <<a href="mailto:edward.lipman@gmail.com" target="_blank">edward.lipman@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">For $39 I'd use my own hammer!<br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Feb 20, 2023 at 9:51 AM <<a href="mailto:jjrudy1@comcast.net" target="_blank">jjrudy1@comcast.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div lang="EN-US"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">FYI<u></u><u></u></span></p><p 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One with Windows XP, the other Windows 7. I called both Staples and Best Buy both of which will take them (and a lot of other stuff) at no cost. However it does not include wiping the disk. Staples offers that service @$29 each, and Best Buy @39 each. Neither could explain to me what a full erase means (for all I know they may open the case and use a hammer).<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">John Rudy<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">781-861-0402<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">781-718-8334 cell<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">13 Hawthorne Lane<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Bedford MA<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><a href="mailto:jjrudy1@comcast.net" target="_blank">jjrudy1@comcast.net</a><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><img style="width: 1.2916in; height: 1.1927in;" id="m_3767864098514526084m_-4231384344192402697m_-2461927273229796679m_7472622834648944189Picture_x0020_1" src="cid:1866fdd7f714cff311" width="124" height="115" border="0"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div></div>===============================================<br>
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