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<p><font size="4">There is another option.</font></p>
<p><font size="4">Find, and take the PC's to a local computer group
refurb shop. <br>
</font></p>
<p><font size="4">Here, in Sarasota, our user group takes in used
equipment, recycles what can't be used, and repairs &
re-distributes what can be to those in need. Everything gets
securely wiped for free.</font></p>
<p><font size="4"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.thestug.org/refurb_files/refurb.html">https://www.thestug.org/refurb_files/refurb.html</a></font></p>
<p><font size="4">Perhaps, some user group in your local area does
the same.</font></p>
<p><font size="4"><br>
</font></p>
<p><font size="4">Drew.<br>
</font></p>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2/20/2023 3:00 PM, Ted Kochanski
wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">If you bake a computer in your oven -- I doubt that
any recycler would want to get the remnants from you
<div>There are plenty of things inside the computer and even
inside the Hard drive not compatible with that temperature</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>If all you want to do is destroy the computer -- take the
cord coming from the power adapter to the computer and cut it
-- then cut the cord on the other side of the power adapter so
that the power adapter is not connected. Now just splice the
cords together -- don't worry about the polarity</div>
<div>Now plug the computer into the wall and stand back -- the
120 VAC applied to the computer will fritz many if not all of
the semiconductors -- leaving a totally non functional smoking
heap of stuff</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>The data might still be on the disk platters of the Hard
Drive but without disassembling the drive and remounting the
platters on a new spindle with new heads there is no way to
get to it</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Taking a drill and drilling through the hard drive is
equally as effective</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>But --why bother?</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Ted</div>
</div>
<br>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Feb 20, 2023 at 2:05
PM Larry Wittig <<a href="mailto:9423lew@gmail.com"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">9423lew@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif">If
you're going to bake, as I suggested,it might be good to
first remove the PCB.</div>
</div>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">
<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Feb 20, 2023 at
1:59 PM Larry Wittig <<a
href="mailto:9423lew@gmail.com" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">9423lew@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
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0.8ex;border-left:1px solid
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">
<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:georgia,serif">One easy way to
erase the HDD is to bake it in your oven -- say 400
degrees F for 1 hour.</div>
</div>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">
<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Feb 20, 2023
at 1:09 PM Ted Kochanski <<a
href="mailto:tedpkphd@gmail.com" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">tedpkphd@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">All,
<div><br>
</div>
<div>It all depends on what is the sensitivity of
the stuff on the disk -- if it is National
Security stuff -- then crushing or grinding,
melting, etc is what you to make sure nothing can
be recovered</div>
<div>I we are talking bank accounts, and such that
is far too too much effort for the reduction of
risk -- there are commercial programs which do a
fairly good job</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>for example the now Infamous Bleachbit</div>
<div>from the wikipedia article</div>
<div>BleachBit is a free and open-source disk space
cleaner, privacy manager, and computer system
optimizer. The BleachBit source code is licensed
under the GNU General Public License version 3.<br>
<br>
History<br>
BleachBit was first publicly released on 24
December 2008 for Linux systems.[3] The 0.2.1
release created some controversy[4] by suggesting
Linux needed a registry cleaner.<br>
<br>
Version 0.4.0 introduced CleanerML,[5] a
standards-based markup language for writing new
cleaners. </div>
<div>On May 29, 2009, BleachBit version 0.5.0 added
support for Windows XP, Windows Vista, and Windows
7.[6] </div>
<div>On September 16, 2009, version 0.6.4 introduced
command-line interface support.[7]<br>
<br>
BleachBit is available for download through its
website and the repositories of many Linux
distributions.</div>
<div>
<table style="font-size:12.32px;border:1px solid
rgb(162,169,177);border-spacing:3px;background-color:rgb(248,249,250);color:black;margin:0.5em
0px 0.5em
1em;padding:0.2em;clear:right;line-height:1.5em;width:22em;font-family:sans-serif">
<tbody>
<tr>
<td style="vertical-align:top"><span><a
rel="nofollow"
href="https://www.bleachbit.org/"
style="color:rgb(51,102,204);text-decoration-line:none;background:url("")
100% 50%/0.857em
no-repeat;padding-right:1em"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><br>
www.bleachbit.org</a></span></td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>
<br>
Features<br>
</div>
<blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px
40px;border:none;padding:0px">
<div>Identifying and removing Web cache, HTTP
cookies, URL history, temporary files log files
and Flash cookies for Firefox, Opera, Safari,
APT, Google Chrome</div>
<div>Removing unused localizations (also called
locale files) which are translations of software</div>
<div>Shredding files and wiping unallocated disk
space to minimize data remanence</div>
<div>Wiping unallocated disk space to improve data
compression ratio for disk image backups</div>
<div>Vacuuming Firefox's SQLite database which
suffers fragmentation</div>
<div>Command line interface for scripting
automation and headless operation</div>
</blockquote>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>
<table style="font-size:12.32px;border:1px solid
rgb(162,169,177);border-spacing:3px;background-color:rgb(248,249,250);color:black;margin:0.5em
0px 0.5em
1em;padding:0.2em;clear:right;line-height:1.5em;width:22em;font-family:sans-serif">
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<tr>
<th scope="row"
style="vertical-align:top;text-align:left;white-space:nowrap">Written
in</th>
<td style="vertical-align:top"><a
href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Python_(programming_language)"
title="Python (programming language)"
style="text-decoration-line:none;color:rgb(51,102,204);background:none"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">Python</a></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<th scope="row"
style="vertical-align:top;text-align:left;white-space:nowrap"><a
href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operating_system" title="Operating
system"
style="text-decoration-line:none;color:rgb(51,102,204);background:none"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">Operating
system</a></th>
<td style="vertical-align:top"><a
href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Windows"
title="Microsoft Windows"
style="text-decoration-line:none;color:rgb(51,102,204);background:none"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">Microsoft
Windows</a><br>
<a
href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MacOS"
title="MacOS"
style="text-decoration-line:none;color:rgb(51,102,204);background:none"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">macOS</a><br>
<a
href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux"
title="Linux"
style="text-decoration-line:none;color:rgb(51,102,204);background:none"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">Linux</a></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<th scope="row"
style="vertical-align:top;text-align:left;white-space:nowrap"><a
href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_size" title="File size"
style="text-decoration-line:none;color:rgb(51,102,204);background:none"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">Size</a></th>
<td style="vertical-align:top">11.5-12.2 <a
href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megabyte" title="Megabyte"
style="text-decoration-line:none;color:rgb(51,102,204);background:none"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">MB</a> (Windows)</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<th scope="row"
style="vertical-align:top;text-align:left;white-space:nowrap">Available
in</th>
<td style="vertical-align:top">64 languages<sup
id="m_-8386608909505707490m_3767864098514526084m_-4231384344192402697gmail-cite_ref-2"
style="line-height:1;unicode-bidi:isolate;white-space:nowrap;font-size:9.856px"><a
href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BleachBit#cite_note-2"
style="text-decoration-line:none;color:rgb(51,102,204);background:none"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">[2]</a></sup></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<th scope="row"
style="vertical-align:top;text-align:left;white-space:nowrap"><a
href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_categories#Categorization_approaches"
title="Software categories"
style="text-decoration-line:none;color:rgb(51,102,204);background:none"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">Type</a></th>
<td style="vertical-align:top"><a
href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disk_cleaner"
title="Disk cleaner"
style="text-decoration-line:none;color:rgb(51,102,204);background:none"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">Disk
cleaner</a></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<th scope="row"
style="vertical-align:top;text-align:left;white-space:nowrap"><a
href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_license" title="Software
license"
style="text-decoration-line:none;color:rgb(51,102,204);background:none"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">License</a></th>
<td style="vertical-align:top"><a
href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_General_Public_License"
title="GNU General Public License"
style="text-decoration-line:none;color:rgb(51,102,204);background:none"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">GNU
General Public License</a></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<th scope="row"
style="vertical-align:top;text-align:left;white-space:nowrap">Website</th>
<td style="vertical-align:top"><span><a
rel="nofollow"
href="https://www.bleachbit.org/"
style="text-decoration-line:none;color:rgb(51,102,204);background:url("")
100% 50%/0.857em
no-repeat;padding-right:1em"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">www.bleachbit.org</a></span></td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Ted</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Feb 20,
2023 at 12:30 PM Edward Lipman <<a
href="mailto:edward.lipman@gmail.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">edward.lipman@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">For $39 I'd use my own hammer!<br>
</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Feb
20, 2023 at 9:51 AM <<a
href="mailto:jjrudy1@comcast.net"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">jjrudy1@comcast.net</a>>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">FYI</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">A
friend has two OLD laptops. One
with Windows XP, the other Windows
7. I called both Staples and Best
Buy both of which will take them
(and a lot of other stuff) at no
cost. However it does not include
wiping the disk. Staples offers
that service @$29 each, and Best Buy
@39 each. Neither could explain to
me what a full erase means (for all
I know they may open the case and
use a hammer).</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">John
Rudy</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">781-861-0402</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">781-718-8334
cell</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">13
Hawthorne Lane</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Bedford
MA</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><a
href="mailto:jjrudy1@comcast.net"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">jjrudy1@comcast.net</a></span></p>
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