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        The last time I disposed of a PC I ran, from the command prompt:<br>
    <br>
    Format  C: /P <br>
    <br>
         It asked if the command should be executed on the next boot and
    I responded "yes".   It appeared to run as expected when I rebooted
    and I assume the /P option caused it to overwrite the whole
    partition.   The disk was then not bootable.   Am I correct that it
    was fully wiped?<br>
    <br>
    Frank Sandy<br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2/20/2023 2:05 PM, Larry Wittig
      wrote:<br>
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        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif">If
          you're going to bake, as I suggested,it might be good to first
          remove the PCB.</div>
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Feb 20, 2023 at 1:59
          PM Larry Wittig <<a href="mailto:9423lew@gmail.com"
            moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">9423lew@gmail.com</a>>
          wrote:<br>
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            <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif">One
              easy way to erase the HDD is to bake it in your oven --
              say 400 degrees F for 1 hour.</div>
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            <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Feb 20, 2023 at
              1:09 PM Ted Kochanski <<a
                href="mailto:tedpkphd@gmail.com" target="_blank"
                moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">tedpkphd@gmail.com</a>>
              wrote:<br>
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              <div dir="ltr">All,
                <div><br>
                </div>
                <div>It all depends on what is the sensitivity of the
                  stuff on the disk -- if it is National Security stuff
                  -- then crushing or grinding, melting, etc is what you
                  to make sure nothing can be recovered</div>
                <div>I we are talking bank accounts, and such that is
                  far too too much effort for the reduction of risk --
                  there are commercial programs which do a fairly good
                  job</div>
                <div><br>
                </div>
                <div>for example the now Infamous Bleachbit</div>
                <div>from the wikipedia article</div>
                <div>BleachBit is a free and open-source disk space
                  cleaner, privacy manager, and computer system
                  optimizer. The BleachBit source code is licensed under
                  the GNU General Public License version 3.<br>
                  <br>
                  History<br>
                  BleachBit was first publicly released on 24 December
                  2008 for Linux systems.[3] The 0.2.1 release created
                  some controversy[4] by suggesting Linux needed a
                  registry cleaner.<br>
                  <br>
                  Version 0.4.0 introduced CleanerML,[5] a
                  standards-based markup language for writing new
                  cleaners. </div>
                <div>On May 29, 2009, BleachBit version 0.5.0 added
                  support for Windows XP, Windows Vista, and Windows
                  7.[6] </div>
                <div>On September 16, 2009, version 0.6.4 introduced
                  command-line interface support.[7]<br>
                  <br>
                  BleachBit is available for download through its
                  website and the repositories of many Linux
                  distributions.</div>
                <div>
                  <table style="font-size:12.32px;border:1px solid
rgb(162,169,177);border-spacing:3px;background-color:rgb(248,249,250);color:black;margin:0.5em
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1em;padding:0.2em;clear:right;line-height:1.5em;width:22em;font-family:sans-serif">
                    <tbody>
                      <tr>
                        <td style="vertical-align:top"><span><a
                              rel="nofollow"
                              href="https://www.bleachbit.org/"
style="color:rgb(51,102,204);text-decoration-line:none;background:url("")
                              100% 50%/0.857em
                              no-repeat;padding-right:1em"
                              target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><br>
                              www.bleachbit.org</a></span></td>
                      </tr>
                    </tbody>
                  </table>
                  <br>
                  Features<br>
                </div>
                <blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px
                  40px;border:none;padding:0px">
                  <div>Identifying and removing Web cache, HTTP cookies,
                    URL history, temporary files log files and Flash
                    cookies for Firefox, Opera, Safari, APT, Google
                    Chrome</div>
                  <div>Removing unused localizations (also called locale
                    files) which are translations of software</div>
                  <div>Shredding files and wiping unallocated disk space
                    to minimize data remanence</div>
                  <div>Wiping unallocated disk space to improve data
                    compression ratio for disk image backups</div>
                  <div>Vacuuming Firefox's SQLite database which suffers
                    fragmentation</div>
                  <div>Command line interface for scripting automation
                    and headless operation</div>
                </blockquote>
                <div><br>
                </div>
                <div>
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rgb(162,169,177);border-spacing:3px;background-color:rgb(248,249,250);color:black;margin:0.5em
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1em;padding:0.2em;clear:right;line-height:1.5em;width:22em;font-family:sans-serif">
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                        <th scope="row"
                          style="vertical-align:top;text-align:left;white-space:nowrap">Written
                          in</th>
                        <td style="vertical-align:top"><a
                            href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Python_(programming_language)"
                            title="Python (programming language)"
                            style="text-decoration-line:none;color:rgb(51,102,204);background:none"
                            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">Python</a></td>
                      </tr>
                      <tr>
                        <th scope="row"
                          style="vertical-align:top;text-align:left;white-space:nowrap"><a
href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operating_system" title="Operating
                            system"
                            style="text-decoration-line:none;color:rgb(51,102,204);background:none"
                            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">Operating
                            system</a></th>
                        <td style="vertical-align:top"><a
                            href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Windows"
                            title="Microsoft Windows"
                            style="text-decoration-line:none;color:rgb(51,102,204);background:none"
                            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">Microsoft
                            Windows</a><br>
                          <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MacOS"
                            title="MacOS"
                            style="text-decoration-line:none;color:rgb(51,102,204);background:none"
                            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">macOS</a><br>
                          <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux"
                            title="Linux"
                            style="text-decoration-line:none;color:rgb(51,102,204);background:none"
                            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">Linux</a></td>
                      </tr>
                      <tr>
                        <th scope="row"
                          style="vertical-align:top;text-align:left;white-space:nowrap"><a
href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_size" title="File size"
                            style="text-decoration-line:none;color:rgb(51,102,204);background:none"
                            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">Size</a></th>
                        <td style="vertical-align:top">11.5-12.2 <a
                            href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megabyte"
                            title="Megabyte"
                            style="text-decoration-line:none;color:rgb(51,102,204);background:none"
                            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">MB</a> (Windows)</td>
                      </tr>
                      <tr>
                        <th scope="row"
                          style="vertical-align:top;text-align:left;white-space:nowrap">Available
                          in</th>
                        <td style="vertical-align:top">64 languages<sup
id="m_3767864098514526084m_-4231384344192402697gmail-cite_ref-2"
style="line-height:1;unicode-bidi:isolate;white-space:nowrap;font-size:9.856px"><a
href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BleachBit#cite_note-2"
                              style="text-decoration-line:none;color:rgb(51,102,204);background:none"
                              target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">[2]</a></sup></td>
                      </tr>
                      <tr>
                        <th scope="row"
                          style="vertical-align:top;text-align:left;white-space:nowrap"><a
href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_categories#Categorization_approaches"
                            title="Software categories"
                            style="text-decoration-line:none;color:rgb(51,102,204);background:none"
                            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">Type</a></th>
                        <td style="vertical-align:top"><a
                            href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disk_cleaner"
                            title="Disk cleaner"
                            style="text-decoration-line:none;color:rgb(51,102,204);background:none"
                            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">Disk
                            cleaner</a></td>
                      </tr>
                      <tr>
                        <th scope="row"
                          style="vertical-align:top;text-align:left;white-space:nowrap"><a
href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_license" title="Software
                            license"
                            style="text-decoration-line:none;color:rgb(51,102,204);background:none"
                            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">License</a></th>
                        <td style="vertical-align:top"><a
                            href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_General_Public_License"
                            title="GNU General Public License"
                            style="text-decoration-line:none;color:rgb(51,102,204);background:none"
                            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">GNU
                            General Public License</a></td>
                      </tr>
                      <tr>
                        <th scope="row"
                          style="vertical-align:top;text-align:left;white-space:nowrap">Website</th>
                        <td style="vertical-align:top"><span><a
                              rel="nofollow"
                              href="https://www.bleachbit.org/"
style="text-decoration-line:none;color:rgb(51,102,204);background:url("")
                              100% 50%/0.857em
                              no-repeat;padding-right:1em"
                              target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">www.bleachbit.org</a></span></td>
                      </tr>
                    </tbody>
                  </table>
                </div>
                <div><br>
                </div>
                <div>Ted</div>
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              <div class="gmail_quote">
                <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Feb 20, 2023
                  at 12:30 PM Edward Lipman <<a
                    href="mailto:edward.lipman@gmail.com"
                    target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                    class="moz-txt-link-freetext">edward.lipman@gmail.com</a>>
                  wrote:<br>
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                  <div dir="ltr">For $39 I'd use my own hammer!<br>
                  </div>
                  <br>
                  <div class="gmail_quote">
                    <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Feb 20,
                      2023 at 9:51 AM <<a
                        href="mailto:jjrudy1@comcast.net"
                        target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                        class="moz-txt-link-freetext">jjrudy1@comcast.net</a>>
                      wrote:<br>
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                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">FYI</span></p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"> </span></p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">A
                                friend has two OLD laptops.  One with
                                Windows XP, the other Windows 7.  I
                                called both Staples and Best Buy both of
                                which will take them (and a lot of other
                                stuff) at no cost.  However it does not
                                include wiping the disk.  Staples offers
                                that service @$29 each, and Best Buy @39
                                each.  Neither could explain to me what
                                a full erase means (for all I know they
                                may open the case and use a hammer).</span></p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"> </span></p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">John
                                Rudy</span></p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"> </span></p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">781-861-0402</span></p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">781-718-8334 
                                cell</span></p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">13
                                Hawthorne Lane</span></p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Bedford
                                MA</span></p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><a
                                  href="mailto:jjrudy1@comcast.net"
                                  target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                                  class="moz-txt-link-freetext">jjrudy1@comcast.net</a></span></p>
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