<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="overflow-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;">If you have any computers (or other items) to donate to newly arrived Ukrainian refugees, plse post your offering 9or if you prefer I can post for you) on the Ukrainian refugee website: <blockquote style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;"><div><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/1031355191148290">https://www.facebook.com/groups/1031355191148290</a></div></blockquote><div><div><br><div>Since most refugees do not access the website daily, I usually allow 7-10 days from posting an offer to pick up. Plse let people know that you are giving the computer away for FREE and it is for pick up in Lexington. If you can deliver it to the person asking that will be of enormous help. Most of these refugees do not have cars, and as we all know public transit to Lexington is not exactly convenient.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks for any support you can offer these refugees!</div><div>Olga</div><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Feb 20, 2023, at 8:56 PM, jjrudy1@comcast.net wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div><meta charset="UTF-8"><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">No. If it can go to a poor person that is great. Maybe Olga knows a Ukrainian who can use it<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">Thanks very much !!<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">John<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-width: 1pt; border-top-color: rgb(225, 225, 225); padding: 3pt 0in 0in;"><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><b>From:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Barry Kort <<a href="mailto:barry.kort@gmail.com" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">barry.kort@gmail.com</a>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Monday, February 20, 2023 8:46 PM<br><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:jjrudy1@comcast.net" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">jjrudy1@comcast.net</a><br><b>Cc:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Cynthia Pill <<a href="mailto:docpill123@aol.com" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">docpill123@aol.com</a>><br><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Lex Computer & Tech Group/LCTG] recycling computers<o:p></o:p></div></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Sounds good. I'll just wipe the disk and install a fresh operating system. If at any time you know of someone who might have need of it, you can always have it back if it hasn't already found a new home.<o:p></o:p></div></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">On Mon, Feb 20, 2023 at 8:37 PM <<a href="mailto:jjrudy1@comcast.net" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">jjrudy1@comcast.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></div></div><blockquote style="border-style: none none none solid; border-left-width: 1pt; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); padding: 0in 0in 0in 6pt; margin: 5pt 0in 5pt 4.8pt;" type="cite"><div><div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">Barry</span><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">Thanks.</span><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"> </span><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">I’m at Huckins Farm in Bedford. I’ll pick them up this weekend and drop them off. As long as the disk is cleaned or destroyed Cynthia will be happy and I won’t drill holes in it</span><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">John</span><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"> </span><o:p></o:p></div><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-width: 1pt; border-top-color: rgb(225, 225, 225); padding: 3pt 0in 0in;"><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><b>From:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Barry Kort <<a href="mailto:barry.kort@gmail.com" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">barry.kort@gmail.com</a>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Monday, February 20, 2023 8:30 PM<br><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:jjrudy1@comcast.net" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">jjrudy1@comcast.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Lex Computer & Tech Group/LCTG] recycling computers<o:p></o:p></div></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> <o:p></o:p></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">I live in Bedford, near the Carleton-Willard Village. But I'm also a volunteer at the FixIt Shop at the Lexington Community Center, where someone could hand off an item to me.<br><br>I'd be happy to accept the two you've described.<br><br>My home address is 12 Mitchell Grant Way, Bedford, MA 01730 (in the Bedfordshire Condominiums). Items can simply be left on my front porch if I'm not home.<br><br>Barry<o:p></o:p></div></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> <o:p></o:p></div><div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">On Mon, Feb 20, 2023 at 5:53 PM <<a href="mailto:jjrudy1@comcast.net" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">jjrudy1@comcast.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></div></div><blockquote style="border-style: none none none solid; border-left-width: 1pt; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); padding: 0in 0in 0in 6pt; margin: 5pt 0in 5pt 4.8pt;" type="cite"><div><div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">Where do you live? Do you want the two I’ve described?</span><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">John</span><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">781-718-8334</span><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"> </span><o:p></o:p></div><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-width: 1pt; border-top-color: rgb(225, 225, 225); padding: 3pt 0in 0in;"><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><b>From:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>LCTG <lctg-bounces+jjrudy1=<a href="mailto:comcast.net@lists.toku.us" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">comcast.net@lists.toku.us</a>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Barry Kort<br><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Monday, February 20, 2023 5:49 PM<br><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Drew King (<a href="mailto:dking65@kingconsulting.us" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">dking65@kingconsulting.us</a>) <<a href="mailto:dking65@kingconsulting.us" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">dking65@kingconsulting.us</a>><br><b>Cc:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:lctg@lists.toku.us" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">lctg@lists.toku.us</a><br><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Lex Computer & Tech Group/LCTG] recycling computers<o:p></o:p></div></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> <o:p></o:p></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">I routinely accept old computers that people want to retire. I wipe the disk and install a suitable operating system (often Linux, but sometimes a suitable version of Windows or Mac OS) to give the machine a new life. <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><br>Barry <o:p></o:p></p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> <o:p></o:p></div><div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">On Mon, Feb 20, 2023 at 5:06 PM Drew King (<a href="mailto:dking65@kingconsulting.us" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">dking65@kingconsulting.us</a>) <<a href="mailto:dking65@kingconsulting.us" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">dking65@kingconsulting.us</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></div></div><blockquote style="border-style: none none none solid; border-left-width: 1pt; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); padding: 0in 0in 0in 6pt; margin: 5pt 0in 5pt 4.8pt;" type="cite"><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">My group here mostly takes in computers capable of running Windows 10.<br><br>If the computer was previously running window 7 It should be capable of running a Linux distribution with current updates.<br><br>Also, keep in mind that Google has a free OS called Chrome OS flex.<br><br>A simple Google Chrome operating system might be simpler for somebody than running a free Linux.<br><br><br>I think we took a donation recently this past month of close to 100 computers that will be reconditioned and distributed to the needy.<br><br>All of the computers get a clean install of Windows 10 and Microsoft office too!<br><br>We have some sort of nonprofit arrangement with Microsoft. I don't know exactly what it is but I do know that our refurbishing group puts office on all of their computers they hand out.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">--<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>Drew King<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">On February 20, 2023 4:35:22 PM EST, Ken Pogran <<a href="mailto:pogran@alum.mit.edu" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">pogran@alum.mit.edu</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></div></div><blockquote style="border-style: none none none solid; border-left-width: 1pt; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); padding: 0in 0in 0in 6pt; margin: 5pt 0in 5pt 4.8pt;" type="cite"><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">One issue to contend with in donating old computers for reuse is that once a computer is old enough, it is no longer supported by newer versions of its operating system. Of course, you<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><i>could</i><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>still run it with its old OS, but then...<o:p></o:p></div><ul type="disc" style="margin-bottom: 0in;"><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">It probably won't be able to take security updates, potentially leaving it (and its users) vulnerable to hacking and other security flaws of the old OS, long since fixed in newer versions.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">It may not be able to run a web browser new enough to include capabilities contemporary web sites assume are there, causing some web pages not to display properly, or some ecommerce things not to work.<o:p></o:p></li></ul><div>Some years back, my dad was using a hand-me-down computer, and his bank's "on-line banking" web site began telling him that, after a certain date, he wouldn't be able to access it with his current browser. The browser was packaged with the OS, and the computer couldn't run a newer version of the OS, so in order to continue to use on-line banking, we had to get him a new(er) computer capable of running a supported OS and browser.<o:p></o:p></div><div>At a senior center, especially, I'd worry that users might be flustered by web pages not loading properly, or by compatibility warnings from ecommerce sites. There's some point at which the most appropriate destination for an old computer is an electronics recycling facility.<br><br>Ken Pogran<o:p></o:p></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><br>OLGA P GUTTAG wrote on 2/20/23 3:12 PM:<o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" type="cite"><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">There are multiple organization that bring old computers back to life and donate them to entities that have need for computing but at a very low complexity (senior centers for email correspondence, …). <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p></o:p></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> <o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Rather than frying your computers or destroying the disks plse consider taking the effort of wiping the disc clean and donating your old computer to one of these up-cycling groups. I bet there are many very poor people in our rural areas and in the rest of the world who would be happy to get your discarded computer.<o:p></o:p></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> <o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Stay well,<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Olga<o:p></o:p></div></div></div></blockquote><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> <o:p></o:p></div></blockquote></div></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">===============================================<br>::The Lexington Computer and Technology Group Mailing List::<br>Reply goes to sender only; Reply All to send to list.<br>Send to the list:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:LCTG@lists.toku.us" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">LCTG@lists.toku.us</a> Message archives:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://lists.toku.us/pipermail/lctg-toku.us/" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">http://lists.toku.us/pipermail/lctg-toku.us/</a><br>To subscribe: email<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:lctg-subscribe@toku.us" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">lctg-subscribe@toku.us</a> To unsubscribe: email<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:lctg-unsubscribe@toku.us" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">lctg-unsubscribe@toku.us</a><br>Future and Past meeting information:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://lctg.toku.us/" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">http://LCTG.toku.us</a><br>List information:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://lists.toku.us/listinfo.cgi/lctg-toku.us" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">http://lists.toku.us/listinfo.cgi/lctg-toku.us</a><br>This message was sent to<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:barry.kort@gmail.com" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">barry.kort@gmail.com</a>.<br>Set your list options:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://lists.toku.us/options.cgi/lctg-toku.us/barry.kort@gmail.com" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">http://lists.toku.us/options.cgi/lctg-toku.us/barry.kort@gmail.com</a><o:p></o:p></div></blockquote></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><br clear="all"><o:p></o:p></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> <o:p></o:p></div></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">--<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p></o:p></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">The Process of Enlightenment Works In Mysterious Plays.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p></o:p></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><br clear="all"><o:p></o:p></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> <o:p></o:p></div></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">--<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p></o:p></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">The Process of Enlightenment Works In Mysterious Plays.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p></o:p></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><br clear="all"><o:p></o:p></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">--<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p></o:p></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">The Process of Enlightenment Works In Mysterious Plays.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br></div></div></body></html>