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<p><font size="5">I have added the Google nearby share to a second
computer without incident.</font></p>
<p><font size="5">In addition to transferring files, you can also
transfer text and hyperlinks.</font></p>
<p><font size="5">Say, for example, you open a Chrome browser window
on your cell phone and would like to continue working on that
web page on your PC. You can very simply and quickly nearby
share the web link to your Windows computer, and it will open in
your Windows browser. <br>
</font></p>
<p><font size="5">When I do the presentation on the 14th, I'll have
my phone screen mirrored onto my laptop and can do a quick
demonstration of how it works.</font><br>
</p>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/27/2023 7:31 AM, Rich Moffitt
wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">On the topic of NFC, though it's irrelevant to
Nearby Share: there are several cheap phones that have NFC now,
in fact I would say it's in the majority of new smartphones at
this point, given that NFC components are commoditized and the
software stack is mature and well standardized by now. Low end
smartphone models like the Google Pixel a series, Samsung Galaxy
A series, and the Apple iPhone SE have had NFC for several
years. A used iPhone SE can be found for under $250 ( <a
href="https://swappa.com/buy/apple-iphone-se-3rd-gen-2022"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://swappa.com/buy/apple-iphone-se-3rd-gen-2022</a>
) and Android phones for even less.
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<div>Side note: "dumb phones" are experiencing a bit of a
revival. ( <a
href="https://www.bbc.com/news/business-60763168"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://www.bbc.com/news/business-60763168</a> )
A possible side effect is lowering smartphone prices, at least
for a little while.</div>
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<div>For a little about how AirDrop and Nearby Share work, the
diagram from the paper "A Billion Open Interfaces for Eve and
Mallory: MitM, DoS, and Tracking Attacks on iOS and macOS
Through Apple Wireless Direct Link" ( <a
href="https://www.usenix.org/system/files/sec19-stute.pdf"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://www.usenix.org/system/files/sec19-stute.pdf</a>
) may be helpful.</div>
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<div>The technologies in play are Bluetooth and peer-to-peer
wifi. Bluetooth for discovery, and wifi for session
establishment and high speed transfer. Peer-to-peer
Bluetooth sharing has been around for decades and is really
slow, so this is effectively a replacement using wifi. Apple
had some interesting vulnerabilities arise ( <a
href="https://www.wired.com/story/zero-click-ios-attack-project-zero/"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://www.wired.com/story/zero-click-ios-attack-project-zero/</a>
) shortly after release. Similarly, Microsoft had to work
out some implementation bugs in Nearby Sharing (not to be
confused with Android Nearby Share) that introduced a rather
serious remotely exploitable vulnerability ( <a
href="https://nvd.nist.gov/vuln/detail/CVE-2021-40464"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://nvd.nist.gov/vuln/detail/CVE-2021-40464</a>
) a couple years ago. Lastly we have Google's Nearby Share,
which Drew mentioned, and it is the newest protocol and
happens to be incompatible with the other two.
Interoperability is clearly a mess. The concept is pretty
well accepted now, but the implementation standards remind
me of this XKCD cartoon:</div>
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<div>-Rich</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, May 26, 2023 at
11:56 PM Drew King <<a
href="mailto:dking65@kingconsulting.us"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">dking65@kingconsulting.us</a>>
wrote:<br>
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<p><font size="5">Bob,</font></p>
<p><font size="5">To my knowledge, NFC Is a cell phone thing
not a Windows thing therefore is not a factor in this
technology.<br>
</font></p>
<p><font size="5">NFC is always DISABLED on my cell. This
software does <font color="#800000"><b>not</b></font>
use 5G or nfc. You just need to be on the same wifi
network. Bluetooth might work also, but I'm not certain
of that. <br>
</font></p>
<p><font size="5">Yes, Apple has had this feature for quite
some time To go from I O S to I O S and perhaps MacOS.</font></p>
<p><font size="5">Android phones no matter what kinds you
have always had the ability to do nearby sharing to
other Android phones, this software adds the capability
to do that between Android and windows.</font></p>
<p><font size="5">There is another program in the Google
play app store that can transfer files from an Android
phone to a Windows computer using the windows nearby
sharing technology without needing to install any
software on windows. Because you're not installing
anything on windows it only works in one direction from
your Android device to Windows. the hyperlink to the app
in the Google play app store is listed below.. <br>
</font></p>
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<div>On 5/26/2023 11:46 PM, Robert Primak wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Be aware, NFC (Android) only exists in a
few, mostly 5G Cellular capable, smartphones right
now. None of these phones is currently priced under
the high-$400.00 range. For me, that's a lot of money
to pay just to share files with nearby devices and
make contactless payments. Just making these payments
signals people that your phone is worth stealing. </div>
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</div>
<div dir="ltr">Apple (iOS) has had their version of
Nearby Sharing for a lot longer than the Android
phones. But just showing that you have an iPhone
capable of contactless payments sends the same signal
that the phone is worth stealing. </div>
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<div dir="ltr">Just my opinions.</div>
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<div dir="ltr">-- Bob Primak</div>
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<div> On Friday, May 26, 2023 at 11:10:39 PM EDT, Drew
King <a href="mailto:dking65@kingconsulting.us"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><dking65@kingconsulting.us></a>
wrote: </div>
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<p>All,</p>
<p>I will demo this at the June Windows 11
meeting.<br>
</p>
<p>This software is still in beta and I have it
installed on two machines and so far it works
flawlessly. It's written by Google.<br>
</p>
<p>It lets you use the Android nearby share
feature that normally only nearby shares with
other Android phones with Windows computers
also.</p>
<p>If you select and long press text or a
hyperlink or a file, android pops up a window
and there is an icon that symbolizes sharing
that is a three-way star looking thing and
then nearby share will be one of the options.
When probably installed, your Windows computer
will show up as one of the devices that you
can send the file or hyperlink to. <br>
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<p><img alt="" moz-do-not-send="true"></p>
<p><br>
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<p><img alt="" moz-do-not-send="true"
width="622" height="870"></p>
<p><br>
</p>
<p>You can send text that you select on your
Android app, and you can also send hyperlinks
in addition to files.</p>
<img alt="" moz-do-not-send="true" width="1071"
height="573">
<p><font size="5"><a rel="nofollow noopener
noreferrer"
href="https://android.com/better-together/nearby-share-app/"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://android.com/better-together/nearby-share-app/</a></font></p>
<p><br>
</p>
<p>There is also a separate Android software
program in the Google Play App Store that lets
you do the same thing but only in one
direction . Developer is working on two way.
The big difference with this software program
is you don't need to install or modify windows
in any way whatsoever. The application on
Android can send files to windows that have
nearby share enabled. Nearby share on windows
must be enabled for this to work.<br>
</p>
<p><font size="6">Nearby Sharing Windows 10 / 11</font></p>
<p><a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer"
href="https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.shortdev.nearby_sharing_windows"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.shortdev.nearby_sharing_windows</a></p>
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