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<div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Dick, you are correct. And I already withdrew my challenge as to who he is and the authenticity of his account.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">However, he did admit in the comments that the video is a fake. He said he was "just having some fun" with his followers.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">And it is an interesting logic and math challenge.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Especially in a game where you can eliminate one or two answers.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">That of course totally changes the problem with each elimination.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Not exactly what folks would want to see on a game show.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">I stand by my evidence that this video and the stills which preceded it, are in fact parts of an urban legend, the logic problem aside. I don't know whether John Rudy originally knew this when he posted this challenge for all of us to debate. </div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">-- Bob Primak</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div><br></div>
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On Saturday, May 27, 2023 at 05:41:00 PM EDT, Dick Miller <themillers@millermicro.com> wrote:
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FWIW, my quick search indicates that "<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="https://youtubedownload.minitool.com/youtube/math-youtube-channel.html">tecmath</a>"
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</font><font face="DejaVu Serif">"<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Techmath&t=newext&atb=v378-5&ia=web">Techmath</a>"
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<font face="DejaVu Serif,Times New Roman,times,serif" color="#000000"> Cheers from<br clear="none">
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<div class="yiv1280661575moz-cite-prefix">On 5/27/23 14:44, Robert Primak wrote:<br clear="none">
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<div dir="ltr">Let me revise my reply. </div>
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<div dir="ltr">Techmath is a verified
account at You Tube, and it has been posting for over nine
years. Other than that, I do not know their outside
affiliations or general reliability of their alleged
"sources". They could well have been duped, or they might be
in on the faking. (I'm leaning toward believing the latter, as
this account makes money by the eyeballs it attracts.) </div>
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<div dir="ltr">"I made a video" does not
mean they made a copy of an existing download or video tape
from 2005. IT can as easily mean (truthfully) "I created a
fake video". Or "someone I dare not name created a fake video,
and they don't want to be sued or taken down for copyright
infringement, which may or may not be an issue after 17 years
post-production under Australian Copyright Laws".</div>
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<div dir="ltr">Apparently, this video was
channeled through this account, perhaps with the unwitting
complicity of the account owner. Or maybe they went for
eyeballs. In any event, the video, whatever its original
source, is an urban myth and a fake. I stand by my evidence,
which was much closer to the time of the actual run of the
show, and therefore not anywhere near as subject to technical
faking as a video which only surfaced in May, 2022. </div>
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<div dir="ltr">My evidence includes several
postings of the full competition run, not just an isolated
clip shown in only one known (and very recent) video copy. If
this scene were real, it would have made headlines in 2005 as
a game show scandal discussion topic. It did no such thing,
because it did not exist then. </div>
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<div dir="ltr">The entire scene, fake or
not, was never aired as part of Who Wants To Be A millionaire
Australia. And it was not part of the huge payout run. </div>
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<div dir="ltr">The presence of this fake
video under this account name brings into serious question the
validity of the many other math tricks posted on this You Tube
Channel. This Channel has destroyed all its credibility by
posting this fake. </div>
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<div> On Saturday, May 27, 2023 at 02:29:00 PM EDT, Robert
Primak <a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:bobprimak@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:bobprimak@yahoo.com" class="yiv1280661575moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"><bobprimak@yahoo.com></a> wrote: </div>
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<div dir="ltr" style="font-size:13px;">There is
absolutely no other place on the web with this
video. I am calling it a fake.</div>
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<div dir="ltr" style="font-size:13px;">If this had
actually happened on the show, my references would
have made mention of it. I already posted a link
with the actual full 14-question listing from the
actual 2005 run, and this question is not anywhere
in that full listing. Three or four other sources
concur on the original sequence. There is an
unedited full-length, two-day span complete video of
this run, fully posted to You Tube by at least two
independent sources, which totally contradicts the
authenticity of this edited fake clip.</div>
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<div dir="ltr" style="">Note also the posting date of
this fake, according to You Tube: <font size="3">May
27, 2022!</font> <font size="3">Seventeen years
after</font> the show originally aired, and well
within the time frame when Deep Fakes became so
terribly convincing as they were in the 2020
Presidential Campaign. The time and date stamp is
not from the account holder and cannot be altered by
the account holder. Google tightly controls these
date stamps on You Tube. </div>
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<div dir="ltr" style="font-size:13px;">Who is
"techmath" anyway? Can anyone find any personal
information on the entity which posted this to You
Tube? This is definitely not a verified account.</div>
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<div dir="ltr" style="font-size:13px;">I told you
before, NEVER MESS WITH A GOOGLE NINJA. </div>
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<div> On Saturday, May 27, 2023 at 09:43:25 AM
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