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<div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Charlie, </div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">I looked into what astrologers think of AI generated astrology. The results were mixed, but rather interesting. Unfortunately, I didn't save my search results. Along the way I think I looked at what ChatGPT said about why people believe in astrology. Again, I didn't save the results or the reference. </div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">-- Bob Primak</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div><br></div>
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On Sunday, July 9, 2023 at 05:32:17 PM EDT, Charles H. Holbrow <cholbrow@colgate.edu> wrote:
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<div><div id="yiv7599553808"><div><div dir="ltr">Now ask ChatGPT “Wwhy do people believe in astrology </div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"><blockquote type="cite">On Jul 8, 2023, at 9:40 PM, Robert Primak <bobprimak@yahoo.com> wrote:<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;" class="yiv7599553808ydp4e0e34aeyahoo-style-wrap"><div></div>
<div dir="ltr">If you want to believe, believe.</div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">If you prefer the human touch, don't use the AI. </div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">But if you want to make money with the least expense, AI is the only way to go.</div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">Remember, the practice of astrology in the US and Canada must include the disclaimer that the readings are presented for entertainment purposes only, and should not be relied upon to make legal, financial or medical decisions. Any other representation would in Quebec Canada (especially Montreal) run afoul of their "vagrancy laws". "Vagrancy" in Quebec means theft by deception. New York City also has specific laws about the conduct of astrologers, psychics and other charlatans. This is partly to prevent the scam where soothsayers claim a victim's money is "cursed", and they must present all of it to the seer to be "cleansed". Well, the money does get laundered... </div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">AI in finance is about as reliable as investing in cryptocurrency or NFTs. </div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">-- Bob Primak </div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div>
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On Saturday, July 8, 2023 at 12:03:57 PM EDT, Harry Forsdick <forsdick@gmail.com> wrote:
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<div><div id="yiv7599553808"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:verdana, sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#0b5394;" class="yiv7599553808gmail_default">Check the enclosed article. Sounds like this might be a marriage made in heaven: </div><div style="font-family:verdana, sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#0b5394;" class="yiv7599553808gmail_default"><ul><li style="padding-bottom:0.6001em;">Astrology, a pseudoscience</li><li style="padding-bottom:0.6001em;">Machine Learning AI, no one can come up with an easy to understand description of how it works.</li></ul><div>By the way, here is how ChatGPT responds when asked the question "Can you describe why scientists dislike astrology?":</div><div><br clear="none"></div></div><blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 40px;border:none;padding:0px;"><div style="font-family:verdana, sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#0b5394;" class="yiv7599553808gmail_default"><div>Scientists generally dislike astrology because it is based on the belief that the positions and movements of celestial objects can influence human behavior and personality traits. While astrology has a long historical and cultural significance, most scientists view it as pseudoscience rather than a valid scientific practice.</div></div></blockquote><div style="font-family:verdana, sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#0b5394;" class="yiv7599553808gmail_default"><div><br clear="none"></div></div><blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 40px;border:none;padding:0px;"><div style="font-family:verdana, sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#0b5394;" class="yiv7599553808gmail_default"><div>Here are a few reasons why scientists tend to be skeptical of astrology:</div></div></blockquote><div style="font-family:verdana, sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#0b5394;" class="yiv7599553808gmail_default"><div><br clear="none"></div></div><blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 40px;border:none;padding:0px;"><div style="font-family:verdana, sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#0b5394;" class="yiv7599553808gmail_default"><div>1. Lack of empirical evidence: Astrology's claims are largely anecdotal and lack rigorous scientific evidence to support them. Scientific research relies on repeatable experimentation and observation, which astrology does not meet.</div></div></blockquote><div style="font-family:verdana, sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#0b5394;" class="yiv7599553808gmail_default"><div><br clear="none"></div></div><blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 40px;border:none;padding:0px;"><div style="font-family:verdana, sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#0b5394;" class="yiv7599553808gmail_default"><div>2. Incompatible with known laws of physics: Astrology often makes claims that are inconsistent with our current understanding of the universe and the laws of physics. Scientific theories, such as gravity, electromagnetism, and the principles of astronomy, do not support astrological claims.</div></div></blockquote><div style="font-family:verdana, sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#0b5394;" class="yiv7599553808gmail_default"><div><br clear="none"></div></div><blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 40px;border:none;padding:0px;"><div style="font-family:verdana, sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#0b5394;" class="yiv7599553808gmail_default"><div>3. Confirmation bias and subjective interpretations: Astrology's success depends on individuals' ability to selectively interpret vague and general horoscopes in a way that resonates with their own lives. It is prone to confirmation bias, where people tend to focus on information that confirms their existing beliefs.</div></div></blockquote><div style="font-family:verdana, sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#0b5394;" class="yiv7599553808gmail_default"><div><br clear="none"></div></div><blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 40px;border:none;padding:0px;"><div style="font-family:verdana, sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#0b5394;" class="yiv7599553808gmail_default"><div>4. Lack of reliability and predictability: Astrological predictions are often vague and open to interpretation, making them difficult to test and evaluate objectively. Science thrives on making accurate and testable predictions, which astrology has consistently failed to provide.</div></div></blockquote><div style="font-family:verdana, sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#0b5394;" class="yiv7599553808gmail_default"><div><br clear="none"></div></div><blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 40px;border:none;padding:0px;"><div style="font-family:verdana, sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#0b5394;" class="yiv7599553808gmail_default"><div>5. Cultural and historical origins: Astrology has been part of human history for centuries, but its origins lie in ancient belief systems and cosmologies that are no longer considered scientifically valid. Science has evolved to rely on evidence-based explanations rather than outdated traditions.</div></div></blockquote><div style="font-family:verdana, sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#0b5394;" class="yiv7599553808gmail_default"><div><br clear="none"></div></div><blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 40px;border:none;padding:0px;"><div style="font-family:verdana, sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#0b5394;" class="yiv7599553808gmail_default"><div>It is important to note that while scientists criticize astrology as a scientific practice, they respect individuals' personal beliefs and choices. The scientific community's skepticism towards astrology stems from its lack of scientific validity rather than an attempt to discredit personal beliefs.</div></div></blockquote><div><div dir="ltr" class="yiv7599553808gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div style="text-align:left;"><font face="verdana, sans-serif" size="2"><font color="#0b5394"><br clear="none"></font></font></div><div style="text-align:left;"><div style="font-family:verdana, sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(11,83,148);" class="yiv7599553808gmail_default">OK. That last "kumbaya" paragraph seems unnecessary, but maybe it's just my cantankerous self showing through.</div><div style="font-family:verdana, sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(11,83,148);" class="yiv7599553808gmail_default"><br clear="none"></div><div style="font-family:verdana, sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(11,83,148);" class="yiv7599553808gmail_default">Now I wonder "What do people who believe in astrology think about machine learning AI"</div></div><div style="text-align:left;"><br clear="none"></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 40px;border:none;padding:0px;"><div><div dir="ltr" class="yiv7599553808gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div style="text-align:left;"><font size="4" color="#0b5394">People who believe in astrology may have different opinions about machine learning AI. Some may see it as a tool or resource that can enhance their understanding of astrology and provide more accurate predictions. They may appreciate the advanced algorithms and data analysis capabilities of AI to uncover hidden patterns and correlations in astrology. Others, however, may view machine learning AI as a threat or challenge to traditional astrological beliefs. They may be concerned that relying on AI could devalue the intuitive and personal aspects of astrology and replace human interpretation with purely data-driven predictions. Ultimately, individual opinions may vary greatly among those who believe in astrology.</font></div><div style="text-align:left;"><font size="4" color="#0b5394"><br clear="none"></font></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><font color="#0b5394"><span style=""><span style="font-family:verdana, sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(11,83,148);" class="yiv7599553808gmail_default">Hmm...</span></span></font><div><font color="#0b5394"><span style=""><span style="font-family:verdana, sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(11,83,148);" class="yiv7599553808gmail_default"><br clear="none"></span></span></font></div><div><font color="#0b5394"><span style=""><span style="font-family:verdana, sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(11,83,148);" class="yiv7599553808gmail_default">Regards,</span></span></font></div><div><font color="#0b5394"><span style=""><span style="font-family:verdana, sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(11,83,148);" class="yiv7599553808gmail_default"><br clear="none"></span></span></font></div><div><font color="#0b5394"><span style=""><span style="font-family:verdana, sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(11,83,148);" class="yiv7599553808gmail_default">-- Harry</span><br clear="none"></span></font><div><div dir="ltr" class="yiv7599553808gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div style="text-align:left;"><font face="verdana, sans-serif" size="2"><font color="#0b5394"><br clear="none"></font></font></div><div style="text-align:left;"><br clear="none"></div><table cellspacing="5" cellpadding="5" style="color:rgb(80,0,80);font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:19.2px;background-color:rgb(238,238,238);margin-left:0px;margin-right:auto;"><tbody><tr><td colspan="1" rowspan="1" valign="top" style="font-size:10pt;"><font face="verdana, sans-serif"><a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://www.forsdick.com/resume/" style="color:rgb(17,85,204);">Harry Forsdick</a><br clear="none"><a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://lexingtonphotoscan.com/" style="color:rgb(17,85,204);">Lexington Photo Scanning</a><br clear="none"><a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://lexingtontmma.org/" style="color:rgb(17,85,204);">Town Meeting Member Precinct 7</a><br clear="none"><a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:harry@forsdick.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:harry@forsdick.com" style="color:rgb(17,85,204);">harry@forsdick.com</a><br clear="none"></font><a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://www.forsdick.com/" style="font-family:verdana, sans-serif;color:rgb(17,85,204);">www.forsdick.com</a><font face="verdana, sans-serif"><br clear="none"></font></td><td colspan="1" rowspan="1" width="5"><font face="verdana, sans-serif"> </font></td><td colspan="1" rowspan="1" valign="top" style="font-size:10pt;"><font face="verdana, sans-serif"><a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="https://goo.gl/xZXT2F" style="color:rgb(17,85,204);">46 Burlington St.<br clear="none">Lexington, MA 02420</a><br clear="none"><a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="callto:17817996002" style="color:rgb(17,85,204);">(781) 799-6002 (mobile)</a><br clear="none"><font color="#0b5394"><a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://meet.jit.si/HarryForsdick">meet.jit.si/HarryForsdick</a> (video)</font><br clear="none"><a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://forsdick.weebly.com/home/my-websites" style="color:rgb(17,85,204);">Click</a> to see my other websites<br clear="none"></font></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div></div></div></div><div><br clear="none"></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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