<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="overflow-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;">My crude version of an old joke this brings to mind:<div><br></div><div>The British aircraft corporation, bringing their first large airliner to market, was anxious to satisfy American safety requirements. They noted a test for the windscreen to survive bird strikes. So, they assembled an air cannon, and bought a commercial turkey as a test object, and carefully calibrated the speed of the exiting bird to replicate the speed of the aircraft. When they fired the bird at the windshield, they were horrified to see the turkey crash through the windscreen, smash the back of the pilot’s seat, and bury itself in the partition behind. They sent a panicky email to NASA asking for assistance with the problem. </div><div>Nasa sent a three word reply:</div><div>”Thaw the turkey.” </div><div><br></div><div><br><div>
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<div><br><div>On Sep 23, 2023, at 11:59 AM, Peter Albin via LCTG <lctg@lists.toku.us> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div><meta charset="UTF-8"><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;">Who is bringing the frozen chicken to the next POT-poor-i?</span><br id="lineBreakAtBeginningOfSignature" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><div dir="ltr" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;">Peter</div><div dir="ltr" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Sep 23, 2023, at 11:34 AM, John Rudy via LCTG <lctg@lists.toku.us> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><div dir="ltr"><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1;"><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">I knew I could trust you.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">Anyway, the chicken only needs to be heated to 150 degrees and a 2# chicken is really small<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="border-width: 1pt medium medium; border-style: solid none none; border-color: rgb(225, 225, 225) currentcolor currentcolor; border-image: none; padding: 3pt 0in 0in;"><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><b>From:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Charles Holbrow <chholbrow@gmail.com><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Saturday, September 23, 2023 11:28 AM<br><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>jjrudy1@comcast.net<br><b>Cc:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Lex Computer Group <lctg@lists.toku.us>; Colin Rudy <colinr1230@gmail.com>; phil radoff <plradoff@yahoo.com>; Mel Weinzimer <melweinzimer@yahoo.com>; Karen Kalil Brown <kkalilbrown@hotmail.com>; George Starkschall <gstarkschall@gmail.com><br><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Lex Computer & Tech Group/LCTG] Is physics useful?<o:p></o:p></div></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Heat capacity for 1 kg of water is almost 4200 J/kg/C. I would expect a frozen chicken to be mostly water, but maybe the chicken industry has experimentally determined the heat capacity of a chicken carcass.<o:p></o:p></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">This calculation does not include heat of fusion necessary to melt ice i.e. to defrost the frozen chicken.<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Heat will be carried away from the warming chicken by vapor which will also include heat of vaporization which is big. The rate of heat loss will soon equal the rate it is being delivered by the slaps.<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Including all the physics will make for a much bigger number of slaps. That's a physics calculation. In addition, any self respecting engineer would provide a margin for error. <o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Of course you could build an apparatus that slaps the chicken in a closed environment so there is no heat loss while the chicken is being slapped. Then you will need to supply enough slap energy to heat that apparatus as well as the chicken.<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Don't invest in this.<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">--Charlie<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">On Sat, Sep 23, 2023 at 9:21 AM John Rudy via LCTG <<a href="mailto:lctg@lists.toku.us" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">lctg@lists.toku.us</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></div></div><blockquote style="border-width: medium medium medium 1pt; border-style: none none none solid; border-color: currentcolor currentcolor currentcolor rgb(204, 204, 204); border-image: none; padding: 0in 0in 0in 6pt; margin-left: 4.8pt; margin-right: 0in;"><div><div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 14pt;">The average person would not be able to do this, and wouldn’t even care. But to me it is beauty. Of course I have not verified the numbers.</span><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> <o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><img border="0" width="359" height="688" id="_x0000_i1026" src="cid:image001.png@01D9EDFF.33E465F0" style="width: 3.7395in; height: 7.1666in;"><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"> </span><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">John Rudy</span><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"> </span><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">781-861-0402</span><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">781-718-8334 cell</span><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">13 Hawthorne Lane</span><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">Bedford MA</span><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"><a href="mailto:jjrudy1@comcast.net" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">jjrudy1@comcast.net</a></span><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><img border="0" width="124" height="115" id="_x0000_i1025" src="cid:image002.png@01D9EDFF.33E465F0" style="width: 1.2916in; 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