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</div><blockquote style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;"><div class="ydp4405c337yahoo-style-wrap" style="font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><span>Turkeys CAN fly.</span></div></div></blockquote><div class="ydp4405c337yahoo-style-wrap" style="font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">If you saw the WKRP in Cincinnati episode we're talking about, your comment would be seen as Apples vs. Oranges.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Wild turkeys can fly and are wily and elusive. No one is arguing otherwise.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">At my volunteer work at Wellington Fields in Waltham, and especially on Prospect Hill, Waltham in the Pine Ledges area, I have several times watched as wild turkeys fly up to tree branches and roost for the night. </div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">But domestic turkeys are a whole other kettle of fish. </div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">As God as my witness, I thought all turkeys could fly, too<br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><a href="https://www.al.com/news/2015/11/as_god_as_my_witness_i_thought.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" class="">https://www.al.com/news/2015/11/as_god_as_my_witness_i_thought.html</a><span><br></span></div><div><br></div></div><blockquote style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;"><div class="ydp4405c337yahoo-style-wrap" style="font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><span>Domestic turkeys, or those raised for food and the type that will likely show up on your Thanksgiving table, are bred to be as heavy as possible. The extra weight means domestic turkeys can't fly.</span></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><span><br></span></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><span><span>Wild turkeys can fly. The birds feed on the ground but sleep in trees, so while they aren't as prolific fliers as some of their other feathered brethren, they can fly, reaching speeds of up to 55 miles per hour. They prefer to travel by walking or running though and can run up to 25 miles per hour.</span><br></span></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><span><br></span></div></div></blockquote><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Regarding domestic turkeys, Dr. Johnny Fever (Howard Hessman) opines, "I guess they're just too stupid to realize that they can fly." </div><div class="ydp4405c337yahoo-style-wrap" style="font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><span><br></span></div></div><blockquote style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;"><div class="ydp4405c337yahoo-style-wrap" style="font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><div><div>The episode may seem too zany to be true, but "Turkeys Away," is actually loosely based on real events.</div></div></div></div><div class="ydp4405c337yahoo-style-wrap" style="font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><div><div><br></div></div></div></div><div class="ydp4405c337yahoo-style-wrap" style="font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><div><div>The real event occurred when series creator, Hugh Wilson, worked at the radio station WQXI in Atlanta. In an interview with the Archive of American Television he said "Jerry Blum, who was the general manager of WQXI, told me that he had been fired from a Texas station for throwing turkeys out of a helicopter. I said to Jerry, 'You just won me an Emmy. That's really funny.'"</div></div></div></div></blockquote><div class="ydp4405c337yahoo-style-wrap" style="font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><a href="https://www.metv.com/lists/7-interesting-facts-about-wkrp-in-cincinnatis-turkeys-away-episode" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" class="">https://www.metv.com/lists/7-interesting-facts-about-wkrp-in-cincinnatis-turkeys-away-episode</a></div><div><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">And slapping turkeys, wild or domestic, does not seem to be a very good way to cook them. I prefer watching amateurs try to deep-fry them, and sometimes lighting their driveways on fire in the process. (I'm pretty sure this was depicted in more than one TV show or movie.)</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">-- Bob Primak </div><div><br></div>
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On Sunday, September 24, 2023 at 10:50:55 AM EDT, <jjrudy1@comcast.net> wrote:
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--></style><div><div class="yiv0585609441WordSection1"><p class="yiv0585609441MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;">Turkeys CAN fly <a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="https://www.birdsandblooms.com/birding/birding-basics/wild-turkey-bird/">https://www.birdsandblooms.com/birding/birding-basics/wild-turkey-bird/</a></span></p><p class="yiv0585609441MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;"> </span></p><p class="yiv0585609441MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;">There are about a dozen of them at Huckins Farm where I live</span></p><p class="yiv0585609441MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;"> </span></p><div id="yiv0585609441yqt93237" class="yiv0585609441yqt4968600628"><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;"><p class="yiv0585609441MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> LCTG <lctg-bounces+jjrudy1=comcast.net@lists.toku.us> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Robert Primak via LCTG<br clear="none"><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, September 23, 2023 5:50 PM<br clear="none"><b>To:</b> Michael Alexander <mna.ma@yahoo.com>; Mitchell I. Wolfe <mwolfe@vinebrook.com><br clear="none"><b>Cc:</b> Lex Computer Group <lctg@lists.toku.us><br clear="none"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Lex Computer & Tech Group/LCTG] Is physics useful?</p></div></div><p class="yiv0585609441MsoNormal"> </p><div><div><h1 style="margin:0in;line-height:18.0pt;"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#0D0D0D;">WKRP in Cincinnati S01E07 Turkeys Away</span><span style="font-family:sans-serif;color:#0D0D0D;"></span></h1><h1 style="margin:0in;line-height:18.0pt;"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#0D0D0D;"><a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6tug84"><span style="font-family:serif;font-weight:normal;">https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6tug84</span></a></span><span style="font-family:sans-serif;color:#0D0D0D;"></span></h1></div><div><p class="yiv0585609441MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:serif;"> </span></p></div><div><p class="yiv0585609441MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:serif;"> I like the ending (0:35:00) .</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:serif;"></span></p></div><div><p class="yiv0585609441MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:serif;"> </span></p></div><div><p class="yiv0585609441MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:serif;">"As God as my witness, I thought turkeys could fly." </span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:serif;"></span></p></div><div><p class="yiv0585609441MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:serif;"> </span></p></div><div><p class="yiv0585609441MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:serif;">(For some reason, the video is mirrored left-right in this bootleg.) </span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:serif;"></span></p></div><div><p class="yiv0585609441MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:serif;"> </span></p></div><div><p class="yiv0585609441MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:serif;">-- Bob Primak </span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:serif;"></span></p></div><div><p class="yiv0585609441MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:serif;"> </span></p></div><div><p class="yiv0585609441MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:serif;"> </span></p></div><div><p class="yiv0585609441MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:serif;"> </span></p></div></div><div id="yiv0585609441yahoo_quoted_5580255697"><div><div><p class="yiv0585609441MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:serif;color:#26282A;">On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 05:25:30 PM EDT, Robert Primak <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:bobprimak@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:bobprimak@yahoo.com">bobprimak@yahoo.com</a>> wrote: </span></p></div><div><p class="yiv0585609441MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:serif;color:#26282A;"> </span></p></div><div><p class="yiv0585609441MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:serif;color:#26282A;"> </span></p></div><div><div id="yiv0585609441"><div><blockquote style="margin-left:30.0pt;margin-right:0in;"><div><div><div><p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:serif;color:#26282A;">There's also the infamous "turkey drop" episode of the TV sitcom <strong><span style="font-family:serif;">WKRP in Cincinnati.</span></strong> For example: <a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="https://www.primetimer.com/quickhits/the-infamous-wkrp-in-cincinnati-turkey-drop-episode"><span style="color:#196AD4;">https://www.primetimer.com/quickhits/the-infamous-wkrp-in-cincinnati-turkey-drop-episode</span></a></span></p></div></div></div></blockquote><div><div><div><div><p class="yiv0585609441MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:serif;color:#26282A;"> </span></p></div><div><p class="yiv0585609441MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:serif;color:#26282A;">I was waiting for someone to reference that episode!</span></p></div><div><p class="yiv0585609441MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:serif;color:#26282A;"> </span></p></div><div><p class="yiv0585609441MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:serif;color:#26282A;">-- Bob Primak</span></p></div><div><p class="yiv0585609441MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:serif;color:#26282A;"> </span></p></div><div><p class="yiv0585609441MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:serif;color:#26282A;"> </span></p></div><div><p class="yiv0585609441MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:serif;color:#26282A;"> </span></p></div></div><p class="yiv0585609441MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:serif;color:#26282A;"> </span></p></div><div><p class="yiv0585609441MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:serif;color:#26282A;"> </span></p></div></div><div id="yiv0585609441yahoo_quoted_6236089028"><div><div id="yiv0585609441yqt05269"><div><p class="yiv0585609441MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:serif;color:#26282A;">On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 03:15:07 PM EDT, Mitchell I. Wolfe via LCTG <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:lctg@lists.toku.us" target="_blank" href="mailto:lctg@lists.toku.us">lctg@lists.toku.us</a>> wrote: </span></p></div><div><p class="yiv0585609441MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:serif;color:#26282A;"> </span></p></div><div><p class="yiv0585609441MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:serif;color:#26282A;"> </span></p></div><div><div id="yiv0585609441"><div><p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:serif;color:#26282A;">UTC used to use live turkeys to test aircraft engines, but switched to dead ones.</span></p><p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:serif;color:#26282A;">There's also the infamous "turkey drop" episode of the TV sitcom <strong><span style="font-family:serif;">WKRP in Cincinnati.</span></strong> For example: <a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="https://www.primetimer.com/quickhits/the-infamous-wkrp-in-cincinnati-turkey-drop-episode">https://www.primetimer.com/quickhits/the-infamous-wkrp-in-cincinnati-turkey-drop-episode</a></span></p><p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:serif;color:#26282A;">-- Mitch</span></p><p id="yiv0585609441reply-intro"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:serif;color:#26282A;">On 2023-09-23 14:18, Michael Alexander via LCTG wrote:</span></p><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #1010FF 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 5.0pt;margin-left:0in;margin-right:0in;"><div id="yiv0585609441replybody1"><div><p class="yiv0585609441MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:serif;color:#26282A;">As I recall, Alan (and others), there used to be a test in which (hopefully dead) chickens were fired at aircraft windshields to test the windshields' integrity against bird strikes. Seriously. Maybe the test is still in use. </span></p><div><p class="yiv0585609441MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:serif;color:#26282A;"> </span></p></div><div><p style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;" class="yiv0585609441MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:serif;color:#26282A;"> Mike Alexander<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="https://overview.mail.yahoo.com/?.src=iOS">Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone</a></span></p><p style="margin-top:0in;" class="yiv0585609441v1yahoo-quoted-begin"><span style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:serif;color:#715FFA;">On Saturday, September 23, 2023, 12:52 PM, Alan Millner via LCTG <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:lctg@lists.toku.us" target="_blank" href="mailto:lctg@lists.toku.us">lctg@lists.toku.us</a>> wrote:</span></p><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt;"><div id="yiv0585609441v1yiv9873363154"><div><p class="yiv0585609441MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:serif;color:#26282A;">My crude version of an old joke this brings to mind: </span></p><div><p class="yiv0585609441MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:serif;color:#26282A;"> </span></p></div><div><p class="yiv0585609441MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:serif;color:#26282A;">The British aircraft corporation, bringing their first large airliner to market, was anxious to satisfy American safety requirements. They noted a test for the windscreen to survive bird strikes. So, they assembled an air cannon, and bought a commercial turkey as a test object, and carefully calibrated the speed of the exiting bird to replicate the speed of the aircraft. When they fired the bird at the windshield, they were horrified to see the turkey crash through the windscreen, smash the back of the pilot's seat, and bury itself in the partition behind. They sent a panicky email to NASA asking for assistance with the problem. </span></p></div><div><p class="yiv0585609441MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:serif;color:#26282A;">Nasa sent a three word reply:</span></p></div><div><p class="yiv0585609441MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:serif;color:#26282A;">"Thaw the turkey." </span></p></div><div><p class="yiv0585609441MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:serif;color:#26282A;"> </span></p></div><div><p class="yiv0585609441MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:serif;color:#26282A;"> </span></p><div><div><div><div><div><p class="yiv0585609441MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black;">Alan Millner</span></p></div><div><p class="yiv0585609441MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black;"><a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:amillner@alum.mit.edu" target="_blank" href="mailto:amillner@alum.mit.edu">amillner@alum.mit.edu</a></span></p></div><div><p class="yiv0585609441MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black;">home 781-862-7893. cell 781-999-4346</span></p></div><div><p class="yiv0585609441MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black;">48 North St., Lexington MA 02420</span></p></div></div></div></div><p style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;" class="yiv0585609441MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:serif;color:#26282A;"> </span></p></div><div><p class="yiv0585609441MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:serif;color:#26282A;"> </span></p><div><p class="yiv0585609441MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:serif;color:#26282A;">On Sep 23, 2023, at 11:59 AM, Peter Albin via LCTG <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:lctg@lists.toku.us" target="_blank" href="mailto:lctg@lists.toku.us">lctg@lists.toku.us</a>> wrote:</span></p></div><p class="yiv0585609441MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:serif;color:#26282A;"> </span></p><div><p class="yiv0585609441MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:serif;color:#26282A;"> </span></p></div></div></div></div><div><p class="yiv0585609441MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;">Who is bringing the frozen chicken to the next POT-poor-i?</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:serif;color:#26282A;"></span></p><div><p class="yiv0585609441MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;">Peter</span></p></div><div><p class="yiv0585609441MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"></span></p><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #1010FF 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 5.0pt;margin-left:0in;margin-right:0in;"><p style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;" class="yiv0585609441MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;">On Sep 23, 2023, at 11:34 AM, John Rudy via LCTG <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:lctg@lists.toku.us" target="_blank" href="mailto:lctg@lists.toku.us">lctg@lists.toku.us</a>> wrote:</span></p></blockquote></div><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt;word-spacing:0px;"><div><div><div><p class="yiv0585609441MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;">I knew I could trust you.</span><span style="color:#26282A;"></span></p></div><div><p class="yiv0585609441MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;">Anyway, the chicken only needs to be heated to 150 degrees and a 2# chicken is really small</span><span style="color:#26282A;"></span></p></div><div><p class="yiv0585609441MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;"> </span><span style="color:#26282A;"></span></p></div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;border-color:currentcolor currentcolor;"><div><p class="yiv0585609441MsoNormal"><strong><span style="font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;">From:</span></strong><span class="yiv0585609441v1yiv9873363154apple-converted-space"><span style="color:#26282A;"> </span></span><span style="color:#26282A;">Charles Holbrow <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:chholbrow@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:chholbrow@gmail.com">chholbrow@gmail.com</a>><span class="yiv0585609441v1yiv9873363154apple-converted-space"> </span><br clear="none"><strong><span style="font-family:sans-serif;">Sent:</span></strong><span class="yiv0585609441v1yiv9873363154apple-converted-space"> </span>Saturday, September 23, 2023 11:28 AM<br clear="none"><strong><span style="font-family:sans-serif;">To:</span></strong><span class="yiv0585609441v1yiv9873363154apple-converted-space"> </span><a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:jjrudy1@comcast.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:jjrudy1@comcast.net">jjrudy1@comcast.net</a><br clear="none"><strong><span style="font-family:sans-serif;">Cc:</span></strong><span class="yiv0585609441v1yiv9873363154apple-converted-space"> </span>Lex Computer Group <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:lctg@lists.toku.us" target="_blank" href="mailto:lctg@lists.toku.us">lctg@lists.toku.us</a>>; Colin Rudy <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:colinr1230@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:colinr1230@gmail.com">colinr1230@gmail.com</a>>; phil radoff <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:plradoff@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:plradoff@yahoo.com">plradoff@yahoo.com</a>>; Mel Weinzimer <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:melweinzimer@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:melweinzimer@yahoo.com">melweinzimer@yahoo.com</a>>; Karen Kalil Brown <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:kkalilbrown@hotmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:kkalilbrown@hotmail.com">kkalilbrown@hotmail.com</a>>; George Starkschall <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:gstarkschall@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:gstarkschall@gmail.com">gstarkschall@gmail.com</a>><br clear="none"><strong><span style="font-family:sans-serif;">Subject:</span></strong><span class="yiv0585609441v1yiv9873363154apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Lex Computer & Tech Group/LCTG] Is physics useful?</span></p></div></div><div><p class="yiv0585609441MsoNormal"><span style="color:#26282A;"> </span></p></div><div><div><p class="yiv0585609441MsoNormal"><span style="color:#26282A;">Heat capacity for 1 kg of water is almost 4200 J/kg/C. I would expect a frozen chicken to be mostly water, but maybe the chicken industry has experimentally determined the heat capacity of a chicken carcass.</span></p></div><div><div><p class="yiv0585609441MsoNormal"><span style="color:#26282A;"> </span></p></div></div><div><div><p class="yiv0585609441MsoNormal"><span style="color:#26282A;">This calculation does not include heat of fusion necessary to melt ice i.e. to defrost the frozen chicken.</span></p></div></div><div><div><p class="yiv0585609441MsoNormal"><span style="color:#26282A;"> </span></p></div></div><div><div><p class="yiv0585609441MsoNormal"><span style="color:#26282A;">Heat will be carried away from the warming chicken by vapor which will also include heat of vaporization which is big. The rate of heat loss will soon equal the rate it is being delivered by the slaps.</span></p></div></div><div><div><p class="yiv0585609441MsoNormal"><span style="color:#26282A;"> </span></p></div></div><div><div><p class="yiv0585609441MsoNormal"><span style="color:#26282A;">Including all the physics will make for a much bigger number of slaps. That's a physics calculation. In addition, any self respecting engineer would provide a margin for error. </span></p></div></div><div><div><p class="yiv0585609441MsoNormal"><span style="color:#26282A;"> </span></p></div></div><div><div><p class="yiv0585609441MsoNormal"><span style="color:#26282A;">Of course you could build an apparatus that slaps the chicken in a closed environment so there is no heat loss while the chicken is being slapped. Then you will need to supply enough slap energy to heat that apparatus as well as the chicken.</span></p></div></div><div><div><p class="yiv0585609441MsoNormal"><span style="color:#26282A;"> </span></p></div></div><div><div><p class="yiv0585609441MsoNormal"><span style="color:#26282A;">Don't invest in this.</span></p></div></div><div><div><p class="yiv0585609441MsoNormal"><span style="color:#26282A;"> </span></p></div></div><div><div><p class="yiv0585609441MsoNormal"><span style="color:#26282A;">--Charlie</span></p></div></div><div><div><p class="yiv0585609441MsoNormal"><span style="color:#26282A;"> </span></p></div></div><div><div><p class="yiv0585609441MsoNormal"><span style="color:#26282A;"> </span></p></div></div><div><div><p class="yiv0585609441MsoNormal"><span style="color:#26282A;"> </span></p></div></div><div><div><p class="yiv0585609441MsoNormal"><span style="color:#26282A;"> </span></p></div></div></div><div><p class="yiv0585609441MsoNormal"><span style="color:#26282A;"> </span></p></div><div><div><div><p class="yiv0585609441MsoNormal"><span style="color:#26282A;">On Sat, Sep 23, 2023 at 9:21 AM John Rudy via LCTG <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:lctg@lists.toku.us" target="_blank" href="mailto:lctg@lists.toku.us">lctg@lists.toku.us</a>> wrote:</span></p></div></div><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt;border-color:currentcolor currentcolor currentcolor #cccccc;"><div><div><div><div><p class="yiv0585609441MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#26282A;">The average person would not be able to do this, and wouldn't even care. But to me it is beauty. Of course I have not verified the numbers.</span><span style="color:#26282A;"></span></p></div><div><p class="yiv0585609441MsoNormal"><span style="color:#26282A;"> </span></p></div><div><p class="yiv0585609441MsoNormal"><span style="color:#26282A;"></span></p></div><div><p class="yiv0585609441MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;"> </span><span style="color:#26282A;"></span></p></div><div><p class="yiv0585609441MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;">John Rudy</span><span style="color:#26282A;"></span></p></div><div><p class="yiv0585609441MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;"> </span><span style="color:#26282A;"></span></p></div><div><p class="yiv0585609441MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;">781-861-0402</span><span style="color:#26282A;"></span></p></div><div><p class="yiv0585609441MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;">781-718-8334 cell</span><span style="color:#26282A;"></span></p></div><div><p class="yiv0585609441MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;">13 Hawthorne Lane</span><span style="color:#26282A;"></span></p></div><div><p class="yiv0585609441MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;">Bedford MA</span><span style="color:#26282A;"></span></p></div><div><p class="yiv0585609441MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;"><a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:jjrudy1@comcast.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:jjrudy1@comcast.net">jjrudy1@comcast.net</a></span><span style="color:#26282A;"></span></p></div><div><p class="yiv0585609441MsoNormal"><span style="color:#26282A;"></span></p></div><div><p class="yiv0585609441MsoNormal"><span style="color:#26282A;"> </span></p></div></div></div><div><p class="yiv0585609441MsoNormal"><span style="color:#26282A;">===============================================<br clear="none">::The Lexington Computer and Technology Group Mailing List::<br clear="none">Reply goes to sender only; 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