<div dir="auto">My doctor usually accepts email attachments but occasionally says the system isn't working right and asks for a fax, instead.</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Oct 16, 2023, 10:36 AM Carl Lazarus <<a href="mailto:carllazarus@comcast.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">carllazarus@comcast.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">Does anyone still need fax? You can scan a document and email it as an attachment.</div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Oct 16, 2023 at 10:30 AM Stan Rose via LCTG <<a href="mailto:lctg@lists.toku.us" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">lctg@lists.toku.us</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">Regarding fax, I am able to use my OOMA service for fax. With the OOMA premium service, I have two numbers: one for regular voice and one for fax.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br clear="all"><div dir="auto"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature">Stan Rose<br><br><a href="mailto:stan_rose@alum.mit.edu" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">stan_rose@alum.mit.edu</a></div></div></div><div><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Oct 16, 2023 at 10:19 AM Mitchell I. Wolfe via LCTG <<a href="mailto:lctg@lists.toku.us" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">lctg@lists.toku.us</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif">
<p>We rather screen spam calls at home rather being interrupted in the car and elsewhere.</p>
<p>Right out of college in the 1970's I elected the cheaper party line option. My answering machine used to pick up calls destined for the other party.</p>
<p>Our home phone has been on VOIP for over 10 years using <a href="https://voipo.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">voipo.com</a>. The cost is less than $7 per month if you prepay for two years. The vendor sends you a free converter box. There's a ton of features. We receive substantially more spam calls than with wireless providers even with the free nomorobo integration.</p>
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<p>Due to industry pressure, the FCC issued <a href="https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/FCC-19-72A1.pdf" rel="noopener noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">Forbearance Order 19-72A1</a> which has officially granted telecommunications carriers permission to abandon outdated, degrading copper POTs lines. Consequently POT service has gotten substantially more expensive and harder to get since the August 2, 2022 implementation date.</p>
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<div>Being incredibly lazy about making changes to our phone technology, I have kept my business line for about $10/mo. Whenever I am asked for phone by people/places I don't trust to keep my real number secure, I give out this line. Thus the daily 20+ spam calls or unwanted follow-ups by sales people from whom I bought a car/plumbing/etc. go to this line. I only monitor it if I am in the process of buying a car, etc.</div>
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<div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:#26282a">I have the premium plan which gives me a second inbound line. It also calls two numbers of my choice for notification purposes when I dial 911. All voicemails appear on the phone but are also emailed to my wife and myself. We have the OOMA app on our phones which allow us to call US phones from anywhere in the world at no cost as long as I have an internet connection. OOMA premium has call forwarding, and call forwarding on network or power failure. There are other features which I don't recall at this moment.<br><br>Barry<br><br>> On Oct 14, 2023, at 5:41 PM, Shelly Lowenthal via LCTG <<a style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" href="mailto:lctg@lists.toku.us" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">lctg@lists.toku.us</a>> wrote:<br>><span> </span><br>><span> </span></span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif;color:#26282a"></span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:#26282a">I've been using OOMA for 12 years. I've recommended it and people have been happy with it. Let me know if you have questions on porting - very simple. Base plan is $7/month - all of it taxes. They have a premium plan with more features.<br>><span> </span><br>> Shelly Lowenthal<br>><span> </span><br>>> On Oct 14, 2023, at 5:16 PM, Peter Shaw via LCTG <<a style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" href="mailto:lctg@lists.toku.us" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">lctg@lists.toku.us</a>> wrote:<br>>><span> </span><br>>><span> </span></span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif;color:#26282a"></span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:#26282a"><br>>> Thoughts on the best options to move my landline over to my Internet service?<br>>><span> </span><br>>> Google Voice, Ooma, probably others.<br>>><span> </span><br>>> I confess, I'm too late to be even a normal late adopter, but that's where I am.<br>>><span> </span><br>>> Thanks.<br>>> ===============================================<br>>> ::The Lexington Computer and Technology Group Mailing List::<br>>> Reply goes to sender only; Reply All to send to list.<br>>> Send to the list:<span> </span><a style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" href="mailto:LCTG@lists.toku.us" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">LCTG@lists.toku.us</a> Message archives:<span> </span><a style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" href="http://lists.toku.us/pipermail/lctg-toku.us/" rel="noopener noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">http://lists.toku.us/pipermail/lctg-toku.us/</a><br>>> To subscribe: email<span> </span><a style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" href="mailto:lctg-subscribe@toku.us" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">lctg-subscribe@toku.us</a> To unsubscribe: email<span> </span><a style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" href="mailto:lctg-unsubscribe@toku.us" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">lctg-unsubscribe@toku.us</a><br>>> Future and Past meeting information:<span> </span><a style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" href="http://lctg.toku.us/" rel="noopener noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">http://LCTG.toku.us</a><br>>> List information:<span> </span><a style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" href="http://lists.toku.us/listinfo.cgi/lctg-toku.us" rel="noopener noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">http://lists.toku.us/listinfo.cgi/lctg-toku.us</a><br>>> This message was sent to<span> </span><a style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" href="mailto:shelly.lowenthal@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">shelly.lowenthal@gmail.com</a>.<br>>> Set your list options:<span> </span><a style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" href="http://lists.toku.us/options.cgi/lctg-toku.us/shelly.lowenthal@gmail.com" rel="noopener noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">http://lists.toku.us/options.cgi/lctg-toku.us/shelly.lowenthal@gmail.com</a><br>> ===============================================<br>> ::The Lexington Computer and Technology Group Mailing List::<br>> Reply goes to sender only; 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