<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#0b5394">The ad-blocker works to detect and block advertisements on the pages you are viewing. It does not check the content for anything, doesn't block any malware or viruses (that's the job of antivirus software).</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#0b5394"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#0b5394">Site owners don't like ad-blockers because the site owners earn money when advertisements are displayed on the page (and especially when/if you click on the advertisement) and by blocking advertisements on a page they are not getting any of this potential money.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#0b5394"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#0b5394">My issue/concern/complaint is not that I want to prevent the site from displaying advertisements, as really I do try to disable all advertisement-preventing plugins (that is, ad-blockers) to let the site display advertisements. But while I think I've disabled all of them, the site complains that I still have some open and active.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#0b5394"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#0b5394">Now if the site were to be specific and tell me that I still have the XYZ ad-blocking software active, I could then get this XYZ turned off.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#0b5394"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#0b5394">But it's a guessing game as the site is saying to me "you haven't turned them all off. I know this in ways I'm not going to tell you and I may even know which one(s) you haven't turned off, but it is up to you to figure out which one(s) and turn it or them off."</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#0b5394"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#0b5394">Tip: I have had some measure of success seeing content using the Reader mode on my iPhone and the Tranquility! extension on my MacOS systems Firefox browser.<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#0b5394"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#0b5394">Regards,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#0b5394">-steve<br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Nov 13, 2023 at 3:10 PM Richard Wagner via LCTG <<a href="mailto:lctg@lists.toku.us">lctg@lists.toku.us</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><u></u>
<div>
<p>Oops! I meant the malware, viruses, etc. in the content I am
trying to access, not necessarily that exists in an ad that may be
present. Sorry!</p>
<p>Dick<br>
</p>
<div>On 11/13/2023 2:53 PM, Richard Wagner
via LCTG wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite">
<p>To me, circumventing ads and gaining access to web content that
the web site spent resources to establish are two different
"beasts". I want access to the web content, so paying for it has
an ethical and, likely, a copyright aspect to it. I DID NOT
request a popup ad that requires that I must disable my
ad-blocker in order to gain access to the information I am
seeking. My assumption has been that the ad-blocker is present
to eliminate malware, viruses, etc. that may exist in the ad (am
I incorrect in this assumption?). Thus, I would like to learn
how to circumvent such ad-blocker turnoff requests without
turning my ad-blocker off! Incidentally, I have no (or maybe a
little) problem with ads that accompany the content I am wishing
to peruse. I have lived with this annoyance my whole life:
radio, TV, newspapers, magazines, web-site content, etc.</p>
<p>Dick<br>
</p>
<div>On 11/13/2023 2:23 PM, David Lees via
LCTG wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">
<div>George,</div>
<div>Perhaps micropayments and whatever the software
infrastructure for them would be a good topic for an LCTG
talk? Maybe you have already had one of those in the past,
but hopefully, it is an area that is changing, because I
know they (the payment processing costs) used to be
expensive. But, agreed it would be great if you could pay a
small amount by the article rather than a subscription. I
know for technical articles, the cost per article is rather
high for an individual, but given the potential volume for
news and mass distribution material, why not have 25 or 50
cents per article?</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>David Lees<br>
</div>
</div>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">
<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Nov 13, 2023 at
2:10 PM George Gamota <<a href="mailto:ggamota@stma-llc.com" target="_blank">ggamota@stma-llc.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
</div>
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<div>
<div lang="EN-US">
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:rgb(31,73,125)">I
understand the ethics if you access a website a
lot bypassing paying, but what I find an issue, is
when you have one article that might be of
interest, say published by Kansas City Tribune.
You don’t want to pay and read articles published
by them daily. So maybe there could a payment say
of $.50 to read that one article.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Just a
thought</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:rgb(31,73,125)">George</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18pt;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span></p>
<div>
<div style="border-width:1pt medium medium;border-style:solid none none;border-color:rgb(225,225,225) currentcolor currentcolor;padding:3pt 0in 0in">
<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> LCTG
<lctg-bounces+ggamota=<a href="mailto:stma-llc.com@lists.toku.us" target="_blank">stma-llc.com@lists.toku.us</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>carllazarus--- via LCTG<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, November 13, 2023 1:17 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'David Lees' <<a href="mailto:joeoptics@gmail.com" target="_blank">joeoptics@gmail.com</a>>;
'Robert Primak' <<a href="mailto:bobprimak@yahoo.com" target="_blank">bobprimak@yahoo.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> 'Lex Computer Group' <<a href="mailto:lctg@lists.toku.us" target="_blank">lctg@lists.toku.us</a>>;
'Steve Isenberg' <<a href="mailto:smisenberg@gmail.com" target="_blank">smisenberg@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Lex Computer & Tech
Group/LCTG] Looking for sites blocked by
paywalls or remove-ad-blockers</p>
</div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Exactly my thought. We may be
talking about large entities such as the NY Times,
Washington Post, Wall Street Journal, etc. but if we
want them to continue to exist they need to be able
to pay their expenses and make some money.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">-- Carl</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<div style="border-width:1pt medium medium;border-style:solid none none;border-color:rgb(225,225,225) currentcolor currentcolor;padding:3pt 0in 0in">
<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> LCTG <<a href="mailto:lctg-bounces+carllazarus=comcast.net@lists.toku.us" target="_blank">lctg-bounces+carllazarus=comcast.net@lists.toku.us</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>David Lees via LCTG<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, November 13, 2023 1:12 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Robert Primak <<a href="mailto:bobprimak@yahoo.com" target="_blank">bobprimak@yahoo.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Lex Computer Group <<a href="mailto:lctg@lists.toku.us" target="_blank">lctg@lists.toku.us</a>>;
Steve Isenberg <<a href="mailto:smisenberg@gmail.com" target="_blank">smisenberg@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Lex Computer & Tech
Group/LCTG] Looking for sites blocked by paywalls
or remove-ad-blockers</p>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt">You
could also discuss the ethical issues of not
paying for things that people trying to make a
living are doing?</p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">David Lees <br>
From Pixel 6 Pro</p>
</div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, Nov 13, 2023, 1:00 PM
Robert Primak via LCTG <<a href="mailto:lctg@lists.toku.us" target="_blank">lctg@lists.toku.us</a>>
wrote:</p>
</div>
<blockquote style="border-width:medium medium medium 1pt;border-style:none none none solid;border-color:currentcolor currentcolor currentcolor rgb(204,204,204);padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin:5pt 0in 5pt 4.8pt">
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<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue"">You are
NOT committing any crime by using most
evasion techniques available to the
general public (not tech-savvy hackers).</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue""> </span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue"">I don't
know what Steve has or had in mind, but
no one can take any legal actions
against anyone for publicly discussing
these tactics. </span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue""> </span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue"">Please
refer to You Tube's Terms of Use and
Zoom's code of user conduct if in any
further doubt. Other sites also have
terms of use. </span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue""> </span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue"">-- Bob
Primak</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue""> </span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue""> </span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue""> </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:rgb(38,40,42)">On
Monday, November 13, 2023 at 12:52:44
PM EST, Steve Isenberg via LCTG <<a href="mailto:lctg@lists.toku.us" target="_blank">lctg@lists.toku.us</a>>
wrote: </span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:rgb(38,40,42)"> </span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:rgb(38,40,42)"> </span></p>
</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:rgb(11,83,148)">Gentlepeople,</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:rgb(11,83,148)"></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:rgb(11,83,148)">After
much consideration, discussing
with several people, and
consulting with ChatGPT, I've
decided <u>not</u> to
demonstrate this. We can
discuss the situation on
Wednesday's Potpourri but I no
longer feel comfortable giving
a demonstration for legal
reasons. My apologies.</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:rgb(11,83,148)">I'm
open to comments.</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:rgb(11,83,148)">-steve</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"> </span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:rgb(11,83,148)">Here's
what I've learned from
ChatGPT:</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"></span></p>
</div>
<div style="margin-left:30pt">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:rgb(11,83,148)">Steve
asks ChatGPT:</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"></span></p>
</div>
<div style="margin-left:30pt">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:rgb(11,83,148)">suppose
I have found a way to get
around a paywall without
paying or subscribing, or to
get around a site's
requirement to disable all ad
blockers without disabling ad
blockers, and I can do this
only on my computer and
without accessing or tampering
with the website. Am I
committing a crime or doing
something that would subject
me to a lawsuit or other legal
action by the website owner?</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"></span></p>
</div>
<div style="margin-left:30pt">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"> </span></p>
</div>
<div style="margin-left:30pt">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:rgb(11,83,148)">ChatGPT
responds (edited):</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"></span></p>
</div>
<div style="margin-left:30pt">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:rgb(11,83,148)">Circumventing
paywalls or other access
restrictions without
authorization may be a
violation of the website's
terms of service, which could
potentially lead to legal
consequences. Additionally, in
some jurisdictions, such
actions could be considered
unauthorized access, hacking,
or a violation of computer
security laws.</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:rgb(38,40,42)"><br>
</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:rgb(11,83,148)">If
you find a way to bypass
paywalls and other measures
that protect the website
content without permission, it
may be seen as a violation of
the website's rights and could
result in legal action.</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:rgb(38,40,42)"><br>
<br>
</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:rgb(11,83,148)">I
asked Aria the same question
and it responds</span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:rgb(11,83,148)">
</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:rgb(11,83,148)">(edited):</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:rgb(38,40,42)"></span></p>
</div>
<div style="margin-left:30pt">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:rgb(11,83,148)">It's
important to note that
bypassing paywalls or
circumventing a website's
requirements without
permission may be considered
unethical or even illegal in
some jurisdictions. Here are a
few points to consider:</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:rgb(38,40,42)"><br>
</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:rgb(11,83,148)">Websites
have the right to protect
their content and enforce
their terms of service.</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:rgb(38,40,42)"><br>
</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:rgb(11,83,148)">Unauthorized
access to paid content or
finding ways to bypass
paywalls may violate copyright
laws or terms of service
agreements.</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:rgb(38,40,42)"><br>
</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:rgb(11,83,148)">Engaging
in such activities could
potentially subject you to
legal action by the website
owner, such as a lawsuit or
other legal consequences.</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:rgb(38,40,42)"></span></p>
</div>
<div style="margin-left:30pt">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"> </span></p>
</div>
<div style="margin-left:30pt">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:rgb(11,83,148)">Harry
asked a similar question </span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:rgb(11,83,148)">addressing
only circumventing paywalls, </span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:rgb(11,83,148)">and
got the response (edited):</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:rgb(38,40,42)"></span></p>
</div>
<div style="margin-left:30pt">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:rgb(11,83,148)">Bypassing
a paywall of a website without
a subscription could
potentially be considered a
violation of the website's
terms of service or terms of
use. It may also infringe upon
copyright laws or other
applicable laws, depending on
the jurisdiction. Engaging in
such activities could
potentially have legal
consequences, including the
possibility of facing legal
action from the website owner.
It is always advisable to
respect the terms and
conditions set by website
owners and to seek proper
legal means to access content.</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:rgb(11,83,148)"></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:rgb(11,83,148)"> </span></p>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:rgb(38,40,42)"> </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:rgb(11,83,148)"> </span></p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:rgb(11,83,148)"> </span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:rgb(11,83,148)"> </span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:rgb(11,83,148)"> </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:rgb(38,40,42)"> </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:rgb(38,40,42)">On
Mon, Nov 13, 2023 at
12:01 PM Robert Primak <<a href="mailto:bobprimak@yahoo.com" target="_blank">bobprimak@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:</span></p>
</div>
<blockquote style="border-width:medium medium medium 1pt;border-style:none none none solid;border-color:currentcolor currentcolor currentcolor rgb(204,204,204);padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin:5pt 0in 5pt 4.8pt">
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<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:rgb(38,40,42)">The
Boston Globe and the
New York Times hide a
lot of their content.</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:rgb(38,40,42)"> </span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:rgb(38,40,42)">Then
there's the somewhat
more problematic case
of You Tube.</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:rgb(38,40,42)"> </span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:rgb(38,40,42)">--
Bob Primak</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:rgb(38,40,42)"> </span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:rgb(38,40,42)"> </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">On
Monday, November 13,
2023 at 08:25:34 AM
EST, Steve Isenberg
via LCTG <<a href="mailto:lctg@lists.toku.us" target="_blank">lctg@lists.toku.us</a>> wrote: </span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"> </span></p>
</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"> </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:rgb(11,83,148)">Gentlepeople,</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:rgb(11,83,148)"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:rgb(11,83,148)">This
Wednesday as
part of the
presentation I
plan to show
how to proceed
to web sites
that prevent
you from
accessing
their content
unless you (a)
remove all of
your
ad-blockers,
or (b)
subscribe or
pay to see the
content
(paywalls).</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:rgb(11,83,148)"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:rgb(11,83,148)">Could
you send me
(and not the
list) the URL
of sites you
have run into
that block
your access,
and I'll add
them to the
list I'll use
as
demonstrations.</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:rgb(11,83,148)"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:rgb(11,83,148)">Thanks,</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:rgb(11,83,148)"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:rgb(11,83,148)">-steve</span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:rgb(11,83,148)"></span></p>
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