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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>I agree it appears that no real evidence has been presented to support these hypotheses. On the other hand, after decades of trying to find dark matter, it does seem like there must be some cosmic mechanism we don’t yet understand.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>-- Carl<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> LCTG <lctg-bounces+carllazarus=comcast.net@lists.toku.us> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Robert Primak via LCTG<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, March 18, 2024 2:29 PM<br><b>To:</b> Stan Rose <stan_rose@alum.mit.edu>; Steve Isenberg <smisenberg@gmail.com><br><b>Cc:</b> lctg@lists.toku.us<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Lex Computer & Tech Group/LCTG] Dark matter doesn't exist and the universe is 27 billion years old • Earth.com<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>While they listed a few possible mechanisms, like the search for Dark Matter and Dark Energy, the evidence looks to my mind to be highly speculative and poorly supported by any kind of evidence. (I have had not very much scientific education compared with most members of this group.) Then again, if I had the level of understanding to read further on this subject, I might be able to see what kinds of evidence both sides of this discussion think they are seeing. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>The paper referenced promises to include some of the evidence seen by the side which favors the CCC-TL hypothesis. Probably that level of reading is beyond my level of education and scientific literacy. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>-- Bob Primak <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div><div id="yahoo_quoted_1750541867"><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>On Monday, March 18, 2024 at 01:48:24 PM EDT, Steve Isenberg via LCTG <<a href="mailto:lctg@lists.toku.us">lctg@lists.toku.us</a>> wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div id=yiv8474370535><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:#0B5394'>Interesting.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:#0B5394'>Posits that forces of nature weaken over time and in different places in the universe. (CCC, Covarying Coupling Constants)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:#0B5394'>Also the Tired Light (TL) concept that light loses energy as it travels across the universe.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:#0B5394'>I wonder what if any evidence is for these.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:#0B5394'>-steve<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:#0B5394'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div id=yiv8474370535yqt33013><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>On Mon, Mar 18, 2024 at 1:20 PM Stan Rose via LCTG <<a href="mailto:lctg@lists.toku.us" target="_blank">lctg@lists.toku.us</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>This seems to up end a lot of ideas!<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><a href="https://www.earth.com/news/dark-matter-does-not-exist-universe-27-billion-years-old-study/" target="_blank">https://www.earth.com/news/dark-matter-does-not-exist-universe-27-billion-years-old-study/</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>===============================================<br>::The Lexington Computer and Technology Group Mailing List::<br>Reply goes to sender only; Reply All to send to list.<br>Send to the list: <a href="mailto:LCTG@lists.toku.us" target="_blank">LCTG@lists.toku.us</a> Message archives: <a href="http://lists.toku.us/pipermail/lctg-toku.us/" target="_blank">http://lists.toku.us/pipermail/lctg-toku.us/</a><br>To subscribe: email <a href="mailto:lctg-subscribe@toku.us" target="_blank">lctg-subscribe@toku.us</a> To unsubscribe: email <a href="mailto:lctg-unsubscribe@toku.us" target="_blank">lctg-unsubscribe@toku.us</a><br>Future and Past meeting information: <a href="http://LCTG.toku.us" target="_blank">http://LCTG.toku.us</a><br>List information: <a href="http://lists.toku.us/listinfo.cgi/lctg-toku.us" target="_blank">http://lists.toku.us/listinfo.cgi/lctg-toku.us</a><br>This message was sent to <a href="mailto:s%2Blctglist@smistuff.com" target="_blank">s+lctglist@smistuff.com</a>.<br>Set your list options: <a href="http://lists.toku.us/options.cgi/lctg-toku.us/s+lctglist@smistuff.com" target="_blank">http://lists.toku.us/options.cgi/lctg-toku.us/s+lctglist@smistuff.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></blockquote></div></div></div></div><div id=yqt32061><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>===============================================<br>::The Lexington Computer and Technology Group Mailing List::<br>Reply goes to sender only; Reply All to send to list.<br>Send to the list: <a href="mailto:LCTG@lists.toku.us">LCTG@lists.toku.us</a> Message archives: <a href="http://lists.toku.us/pipermail/lctg-toku.us/" target="_blank">http://lists.toku.us/pipermail/lctg-toku.us/</a><br>To subscribe: email <a href="mailto:lctg-subscribe@toku.us">lctg-subscribe@toku.us</a> To unsubscribe: email <a href="mailto:lctg-unsubscribe@toku.us">lctg-unsubscribe@toku.us</a><br>Future and Past meeting information: <a href="http://LCTG.toku.us" target="_blank">http://LCTG.toku.us</a><br>List information: <a href="http://lists.toku.us/listinfo.cgi/lctg-toku.us" target="_blank">http://lists.toku.us/listinfo.cgi/lctg-toku.us</a><br>This message was sent to <a href="mailto:bobprimak@yahoo.com.">bobprimak@yahoo.com.</a><br>Set your list options: <a href="http://lists.toku.us/options.cgi/lctg-toku.us/bobprimak@yahoo.com" target="_blank">http://lists.toku.us/options.cgi/lctg-toku.us/bobprimak@yahoo.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></body></html>