<div dir="ltr">Bob P., et al<div><br></div><div>You made a gratuitous unsupported comment </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">"Quantum Computing is like Nuclear Fusion -- it's always "5 years away", and then another five years, and then another five years, and so on."</blockquote><div><br></div><div>While I'm interested in Quantum Computing -- I don't claim any profound knowledge of it or its progress</div><div><br></div><div>On the other hand -- Nuclear Fusion has made enormous progress over its history [Yes there have been unsubstantiated claims from time to time] -- But if you compare the rate of progress in Q [energy out/Energy In] it has grown faster than the vaunted and somewhat also overhyped "Moore's Law as applied to computer technology</div><div><br></div><div>see for example</div><div><br></div><div>ITER NEWSLINE 53<br>13 OCT, 2008 </div><div>#53Pour les actualités en français<br>DOWN TO EARTH<br>Sabina Griffith<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><br>Progress in plasma confinement performance compared to that of other advanced technologies.<br>"We walked in there with clear minds and came out with a whole lot of crazy ideas," says Timothy Watson, Chief Technical Assistant to the Head of the Civil Construction & Site Support Department, recalling the two-day value engineering workshop that took place at the beginning of September in Aix-en-Provence and that had one clearly defined goal: to look at potential cost savings for the ITER buildings. "Even building ITER on the moon would have been a permissible suggestion if it could result in cost savings." So, being creative was one challenge, doing so before the design of the buildings is frozen was another.</blockquote></div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://static.iter.org/all/newsline_1_120/img/53/moores.jpg._1024.jpg">https://static.iter.org/all/newsline_1_120/img/53/moores.jpg._1024.jpg</a><br></div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://static.iter.org/all/newsline_1_120/img/53/moores.jpg._1024.jpg">Fusion Progress vs time via ITER 2008</a><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Ted</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Aug 1, 2024 at 5:32 PM Robert Primak via LCTG <<a href="mailto:lctg@lists.toku.us">lctg@lists.toku.us</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><div></div>
<div><br></div><div dir="ltr">On June 26, 2024, our group watched a series of videos by Sabine Hossenfelder in which she totally tore to pieces the outlandish claims made by people like those featured in this 60 Minutes segment. (Possibly some of the very same people, but certainly several of the same research groups.) (To review these videos, see the links on Steve Isenberg's wiki page for our group, under current and near-future meetings.) </div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Quantum Computing is like Nuclear Fusion -- it's always "5 years away", and then another five years, and then another five years, and so on.</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Like cryptocurrencies and LLMs ("AI"), you can buy into the hype and get fleeced, or you can wait and see what happens five years down the road. I guarantee, none of us in this group will live to see the day that these promised "breakthrough technologies" break through anything in our everyday lives. </div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">-- Bob Primak</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br><div><div><br></div></div><div><div style="margin:2px 0px 0px;padding:0px;border:0px;background:transparent;vertical-align:middle"></div></div></div>
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On Wednesday, July 31, 2024 at 08:54:34 PM EDT, Stan Rose via LCTG <<a href="mailto:lctg@lists.toku.us" target="_blank">lctg@lists.toku.us</a>> wrote:
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<div><div id="m_-7515024885442974498yiv1511781935"><div>CBS 60 Minutes did an interesting story Sunday night on Quantum Computers. It was a good explanation of how they work and what they look like. Here's a link to that story.<div><br></div><div><a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" href="https://www.cbs.com/shows/video/UQOnnWJMlK24ZpBdM_DKWJFv_MNecSHD/" target="_blank">https://www.cbs.com/shows/video/UQOnnWJMlK24ZpBdM_DKWJFv_MNecSHD/</a><br></div></div>
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