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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D'>I agree, Physics is a HUGE tent. Basically physics is what physicists are interested in: biology – biophysics, astronomy – astrophysics. Many engineering faculties were populated by physicists especially when there were major advances, sch as Vacuum tubes to solid state, etc. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D'>I know John Hopfield. When he was at Bell Labs, he was a solid state guy who became fascinated with biology and wanted to bring physics to a basically descriptive field. Of DNA discovery, Wilkins, Crick were physicists, and the list goes on.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D'>George<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> LCTG <lctg-bounces+ggamota=stma-llc.com@lists.toku.us> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Robert Primak via LCTG<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, October 13, 2024 8:16 AM<br><b>To:</b> carllazarus@comcast.net; Larry Wittig <9423lew@gmail.com><br><b>Cc:</b> lctg@lists.toku.us<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Lex Computer & Tech Group/LCTG] Article which explains what we saw yesterday<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Catchy title, but I think she is being too strict in her distinctions.</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Physics, last I asked someone about it, is a big tent. </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>So is psychology. </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>-- Bob Primak </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div><div id="yahoo_quoted_9247782617"><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>On Saturday, October 12, 2024 at 11:12:28 AM EDT, Larry Wittig via LCTG <<a href="mailto:lctg@lists.toku.us">lctg@lists.toku.us</a>> wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>Why the 2024 Nobel in Physics wasn't for physics.<br><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dR1ncz-Lozc" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dR1ncz-Lozc</a><br><br><br>On Thu, Oct 10, 2024 at 2:51 PM carllazarus--- via LCTG<br><<a href="mailto:lctg@lists.toku.us">lctg@lists.toku.us</a>> wrote:<br>><br>> I second Harry’s thanks to Peter Albin for coming up with such a great last-minute fill-in. John Hopfield’s talk went over my head, but I followed a lot of Geoffrey Hinton’s. Hinton’s talk also got my thinking there may actually be an existential threat. His idea that artificial intelligences could manipulate people so that we wouldn’t turn them off struck a chord.<br>><br>><br>><br>> -- Carl<br>><br>><br>><br>> From: LCTG <<a href="mailto:lctg-bounces+carllazarus=comcast.net@lists.toku.us">lctg-bounces+carllazarus=comcast.net@lists.toku.us</a>> On Behalf Of Harry Forsdick via LCTG<br>> Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2024 1:50 PM<br>> To: <a href="mailto:LCTG@lists.toku.us">LCTG@lists.toku.us</a><br>> Cc: Harry Forsdick <<a href="mailto:forsdick@gmail.com">forsdick@gmail.com</a>><br>> Subject: [Lex Computer & Tech Group/LCTG] Article which explains what we saw yesterday<br>><br>><br>><br>> Folks,<br>><br>><br>><br>> I thought yesterday's videos about the two people who one the 2024 Nobel Prize in Physics were both amazing -- even though I had no idea what John Hopfield was talking about. Geoffrey Hinton's talk was a lot more understandable -- probably because I have heard him before and have read up a lot more on the things for which he was awarded the prize. In any case, here is an article I found today about the two contributions for which the Nobel prize was awarded:<br>><br>> <a href="https://www.perplexity.ai/page/hopfield-and-hinton-win-nobel-MeAlPhntSDyKO4ZfQVWqbA" target="_blank">https://www.perplexity.ai/page/hopfield-and-hinton-win-nobel-MeAlPhntSDyKO4ZfQVWqbA</a><br>><br>> This came, interestingly enough from Perplexity.ai -- which is an excellent example of what can be done using the results of the two awardees.<br>><br>><br>><br>> For reference, here are URLs to the two videos we saw yesterday:<br>><br>> John Hopfield's Talk: Emergence, dynamics, and behaviour<br>> Geoffrey Hinton's Talk: The Godfather in Conversation: Why Geoffrey Hinton is worried about the future of AI<br>><br>> Thank you Peter Albin for finding these excellent videos for this last minute fill-in session of LCTG's weekly meeting. For me, this is an example of why I try to attend these meetings each week.<br>><br>><br>><br>> Regards,<br>><br>><br>><br>> -- Harry<br>><br>><br>><br>><br>><br>><br>><br>> Harry Forsdick<br>> Town Meeting Member Precinct 7<br>> <a href="mailto:harry@forsdick.com">harry@forsdick.com</a><br>> <a href="http://www.forsdick.com">www.forsdick.com</a><br>><br>><br>><br>> 46 Burlington St.<br>> Lexington, MA 02420<br>> (781) 799-6002 (mobile)<br>><br>><br>><br>> ===============================================<br>> ::The Lexington Computer and Technology Group Mailing List::<br>> Reply goes to sender only; Reply All to send to list.<br>> Send to the list: <a href="mailto:LCTG@lists.toku.us">LCTG@lists.toku.us</a> Message archives: <a href="http://lists.toku.us/pipermail/lctg-toku.us/" target="_blank">http://lists.toku.us/pipermail/lctg-toku.us/</a><br>> To subscribe: email <a href="mailto:lctg-subscribe@toku.us">lctg-subscribe@toku.us</a> To unsubscribe: email <a href="mailto:lctg-unsubscribe@toku.us">lctg-unsubscribe@toku.us</a><br>> Future and Past meeting information: <a href="http://LCTG.toku.us" target="_blank">http://LCTG.toku.us</a><br>> List information: <a href="http://lists.toku.us/listinfo.cgi/lctg-toku.us" target="_blank">http://lists.toku.us/listinfo.cgi/lctg-toku.us</a><br>> This message was sent to <a href="mailto:9423lew@gmail.com.">9423lew@gmail.com.</a><br>> Set your list options: <a href="http://lists.toku.us/options.cgi/lctg-toku.us/9423lew@gmail.com" target="_blank">http://lists.toku.us/options.cgi/lctg-toku.us/9423lew@gmail.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><div id=yqtfd01670><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><br>===============================================<br>::The Lexington Computer and Technology Group Mailing List::<br>Reply goes to sender only; Reply All to send to list.<br>Send to the list: <a href="mailto:LCTG@lists.toku.us">LCTG@lists.toku.us</a> Message archives: <a href="http://lists.toku.us/pipermail/lctg-toku.us/" target="_blank">http://lists.toku.us/pipermail/lctg-toku.us/</a><br>To subscribe: email <a href="mailto:lctg-subscribe@toku.us">lctg-subscribe@toku.us</a> To unsubscribe: email <a href="mailto:lctg-unsubscribe@toku.us">lctg-unsubscribe@toku.us</a><br>Future and Past meeting information: <a href="http://LCTG.toku.us" target="_blank">http://LCTG.toku.us</a><br>List information: <a href="http://lists.toku.us/listinfo.cgi/lctg-toku.us" target="_blank">http://lists.toku.us/listinfo.cgi/lctg-toku.us</a><br>This message was sent to <a href="mailto:bobprimak@yahoo.com.">bobprimak@yahoo.com.</a><br>Set your list options: <a href="http://lists.toku.us/options.cgi/lctg-toku.us/bobprimak@yahoo.com" target="_blank">http://lists.toku.us/options.cgi/lctg-toku.us/bobprimak@yahoo.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></body></html>