<div dir="ltr">George, et al<div><br></div><div>I think the Nobel Committee felt that it was slipping behind the curve if they didn't jump on the "AI everything bandwagon" and give some old guys a prize for work with AI -- similar to when they gave Kilby the prize in 2000 after Noyce passed away 1,2 ironically Gordon Moore who passed away last year never got the prize in either Physics or Chemistry [his Ph.D. field of study at Caltech] although he received the Presidential Medal of Freedom3</div><div><br></div><div>Nobel intended for the prize to be awarded to someone who made a major contribution and whose work would benefit from the money</div><div><br></div><div>Ted</div><div><br></div><div>Ref:</div><div><br></div><div>1:</div><div>from the Nobel Prize website</div><div><div class="gmail-image" style="box-sizing:inherit;border:0px;font-variant-numeric:inherit;font-variant-east-asian:inherit;font-variant-alternates:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;line-height:inherit;font-family:"Alfred Serif Regular",Times,"Times New Roman",serif;font-size-adjust:inherit;font-kerning:inherit;font-feature-settings:inherit;font-size:16px;margin:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-left:0px;vertical-align:baseline;width:225.594px;color:rgb(46,42,37)"><p class="gmail-figcaption__attribution" style="box-sizing:inherit;border:0px;font-style:inherit;font-variant:inherit;font-weight:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;font-size-adjust:inherit;font-kerning:inherit;font-feature-settings:inherit;margin:0px;padding:0px;vertical-align:baseline;display:inline"><br class="gmail-Apple-interchange-newline">Photo from the Nobel Foundation archive.</p></div><div class="gmail-content" style="box-sizing:inherit;border:0px;font-variant-numeric:inherit;font-variant-east-asian:inherit;font-variant-alternates:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;line-height:inherit;font-family:"Alfred Serif Regular",Times,"Times New Roman",serif;font-size-adjust:inherit;font-kerning:inherit;font-feature-settings:inherit;font-size:16px;margin:0px;padding:0px;vertical-align:baseline;color:rgb(46,42,37);width:481.266px"><p style="box-sizing:inherit;border:0px;font-style:inherit;font-variant:inherit;font-weight:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;line-height:1.3333;font-family:inherit;font-size-adjust:inherit;font-kerning:inherit;font-feature-settings:inherit;font-size:1.125em;margin:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-left:0px;vertical-align:baseline">Jack S. Kilby<br style="box-sizing:inherit">The Nobel Prize in Physics 2000</p><p class="gmail-born-date" style="box-sizing:inherit;border:0px;font-style:inherit;font-variant:inherit;font-weight:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;line-height:1.3333;font-family:inherit;font-size-adjust:inherit;font-kerning:inherit;font-feature-settings:inherit;font-size:1.125em;margin:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-left:0px;vertical-align:baseline">Born: 8 November 1923, Jefferson City, MO, USA</p><p class="gmail-dead-date" style="box-sizing:inherit;border:0px;font-style:inherit;font-variant:inherit;font-weight:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;line-height:1.3333;font-family:inherit;font-size-adjust:inherit;font-kerning:inherit;font-feature-settings:inherit;font-size:1.125em;margin:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-left:0px;vertical-align:baseline">Died: 20 June 2005, Dallas, TX, USA</p><p style="box-sizing:inherit;border:0px;font-style:inherit;font-variant:inherit;font-weight:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;line-height:1.3333;font-family:inherit;font-size-adjust:inherit;font-kerning:inherit;font-feature-settings:inherit;font-size:1.125em;margin:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-left:0px;vertical-align:baseline">Affiliation at the time of the award: Texas Instruments, Dallas, TX, USA</p><p style="box-sizing:inherit;border:0px;font-style:inherit;font-variant:inherit;font-weight:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;line-height:1.3333;font-family:inherit;font-size-adjust:inherit;font-kerning:inherit;font-feature-settings:inherit;font-size:1.125em;margin:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-left:0px;vertical-align:baseline">Prize motivation: “for his part in the invention of the integrated circuit”</p><p style="box-sizing:inherit;border:0px;font-style:inherit;font-variant:inherit;font-weight:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;line-height:1.3333;font-family:inherit;font-size-adjust:inherit;font-kerning:inherit;font-feature-settings:inherit;font-size:1.125em;margin:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-left:0px;vertical-align:baseline">Prize share: 1/2</p></div><div class="gmail-description gmail-border-top" style="box-sizing:inherit;border-right:0px;border-bottom:0px;border-left:0px;font-variant-numeric:inherit;font-variant-east-asian:inherit;font-variant-alternates:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;line-height:inherit;font-size-adjust:inherit;font-kerning:inherit;font-feature-settings:inherit;margin:0px;padding:0px;vertical-align:baseline;width:752px"><h3 style="color:rgb(46,42,37);font-family:"Alfred Serif Regular",Times,"Times New Roman",serif;font-size:1.5em;box-sizing:inherit;border:0px;font-style:inherit;font-variant:inherit;font-weight:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;line-height:1.16;font-size-adjust:inherit;font-kerning:inherit;font-feature-settings:inherit;margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-left:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;vertical-align:baseline">Work</h3><p style="color:rgb(46,42,37);font-family:inherit;font-size:1.125em;box-sizing:inherit;border:0px;font-style:inherit;font-variant:inherit;font-weight:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;line-height:1.3333;font-size-adjust:inherit;font-kerning:inherit;font-feature-settings:inherit;margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-left:0px;padding:0px;vertical-align:baseline"></p><p style="color:rgb(46,42,37);font-family:inherit;font-size:1.125em;box-sizing:inherit;border:0px;font-style:inherit;font-variant:inherit;font-weight:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;line-height:1.3333;font-size-adjust:inherit;font-kerning:inherit;font-feature-settings:inherit;margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-left:0px;padding:0px;vertical-align:baseline">The discovery of the small electronic component, the transistor, created new opportunities to amplify and control electrical signals. New materials were used and transistors gradually became smaller. Independently of one another, in 1959 Jack Kilby and Robert Noyce showed that many transistors, resistors, and capacitors could be grouped on a single board of semiconductor material. The integrated circuit, or microchip, came to be a vital component in computers and other electronic equipment.</p><p style="color:rgb(46,42,37);font-family:inherit;font-size:1.125em;box-sizing:inherit;border:0px;font-style:inherit;font-variant:inherit;font-weight:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;line-height:1.3333;font-size-adjust:inherit;font-kerning:inherit;font-feature-settings:inherit;margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-left:0px;padding:0px;vertical-align:baseline">2:</p><p style="color:rgb(46,42,37);font-family:inherit;font-size:1.125em;box-sizing:inherit;border:0px;font-style:inherit;font-variant:inherit;font-weight:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;line-height:1.3333;font-size-adjust:inherit;font-kerning:inherit;font-feature-settings:inherit;margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-left:0px;padding:0px;vertical-align:baseline">Intel Corporate History:</p><div class="gmail-articleParagraph gmail-parbase gmail-section" style="color:rgb(38,38,38);font-family:intel-clear,tahoma,Helvetica,helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:20px;box-sizing:border-box;border:0px;margin-right:200px;margin-top:0.5rem;margin-bottom:1rem"><div id="gmail-articleparagraph-1" class="gmail-component" style="box-sizing:border-box"><div style="box-sizing:border-box"><div class="gmail-container" style="box-sizing:border-box;margin-right:auto;margin-left:auto;padding-left:0px;padding-right:15px;width:auto;max-width:none"><div class="gmail-component-padding" style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0px"><div class="gmail-row" style="box-sizing:border-box;display:flex"><div class="gmail-col-md-8 gmail-paragraph-placeholder" style="box-sizing:border-box;min-height:1px;padding-left:15px;float:left;width:983.5px;padding-right:0px"><div class="gmail-article-content" style="box-sizing:border-box;font-size:1.25rem;line-height:1.625rem"><div class="gmail-row" style="box-sizing:border-box;display:flex"><div class="gmail-col-xs-12 gmail-articlepara" style="box-sizing:border-box;min-height:1px;padding-left:15px;padding-right:15px;width:998.5px"><p style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px 0px 16px;line-height:1.625rem">Robert Noyce and Gordon Moore were already Silicon Valley legends when they founded Intel in 1968. The two men had been among the founders of Fairchild Semiconductors in 1957, and in the ensuing years they had found tremendous success: Fairchild was a thriving business, Noyce and Moore had grown personally wealthy, Noyce had co-invented the integrated circuit — one of the most important devices of the century — and Moore had articulated Moore’s Law, a defining principle of technology development.</p><p style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px 0px 16px;line-height:1.625rem"></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="gmail-articleParagraph gmail-parbase gmail-section" style="box-sizing:border-box;border:0px;margin-right:200px;margin-top:0.5rem;margin-bottom:1rem"><div id="gmail-articleparagraph-2" class="gmail-component" style="box-sizing:border-box"><div style="box-sizing:border-box"><div class="gmail-container" style="box-sizing:border-box;margin-right:auto;margin-left:auto;padding-left:0px;padding-right:15px;width:auto;max-width:none"><div class="gmail-component-padding" style="box-sizing:border-box;padding:0px"><div class="gmail-row" style="box-sizing:border-box;display:flex"><div class="gmail-col-md-4 gmail-takeaway-placeholder" style="color:rgb(38,38,38);font-family:intel-clear,tahoma,Helvetica,helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:20px;box-sizing:border-box;min-height:1px;float:left;width:0px;padding-left:0px;padding-right:0px"></div><div class="gmail-col-md-8 gmail-paragraph-placeholder" style="box-sizing:border-box;min-height:1px;padding-left:15px;float:left;width:983.5px;padding-right:0px"><div class="gmail-article-content" style="box-sizing:border-box;line-height:1.625rem"><div class="gmail-row" style="box-sizing:border-box;display:flex"><div class="gmail-col-xs-12 gmail-articlepara" style="box-sizing:border-box;min-height:1px;padding-left:15px;padding-right:15px;width:998.5px"><p style="color:rgb(38,38,38);font-family:intel-clear,tahoma,Helvetica,helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:1.25rem;box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px 0px 16px;line-height:1.625rem"></p><p style="color:rgb(38,38,38);font-family:intel-clear,tahoma,Helvetica,helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:1.25rem;box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px 0px 16px;line-height:1.625rem">Nevertheless, Noyce and Moore were growing restless. Fairchild Semiconductors operated as a subsidiary of Fairchild Camera and Instrument, and they felt the parent company wasn’t reinvesting enough of the proceeds from the highly profitable semiconductor business into the research and development of new semiconductor technologies. In 1968, Noyce and Moore resigned from Fairchild. Noyce explained his hopes for the future in his letter of resignation:</p><p style="color:rgb(38,38,38);font-family:intel-clear,tahoma,Helvetica,helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:1.25rem;box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px 0px 16px;line-height:1.625rem">“I do not expect to join any company which is simply a manufacturer of semiconductors. I would rather try to find some small company which is trying to develop some product or technology which no one has yet done. To stay independent (and small) I might form a new company, after a vacation.”</p><p style="color:rgb(38,38,38);font-family:intel-clear,tahoma,Helvetica,helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:1.25rem;box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px 0px 16px;line-height:1.625rem">Noyce and Moore incorporated their new venture on July 18th and made a commitment to continued innovation a fundamental component of their company’s culture.</p>3:<br>from Wikipedia<br><p style="margin:0.5em 0px 1em;color:rgb(32,33,34);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:16px">In 1990, Moore was with the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Medal_of_Technology_and_Innovation" title="National Medal of Technology and Innovation" style="text-decoration-line:none;background:none;border-radius:0px">National Medal of Technology and Innovation</a> by President <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_H._W._Bush" title="George H. W. Bush" style="text-decoration-line:none;background:none;border-radius:0px">George H. W. Bush</a>, "for his seminal leadership in bringing American industry the two major postwar innovations in microelectronics – large-scale integrated memory and the microprocessor – that have fueled the information revolution".<sup id="gmail-cite_ref-44" class="gmail-reference" style="line-height:1;unicode-bidi:isolate;font-size:12.8px"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gordon_Moore#cite_note-44" style="text-decoration-line:none;background:none;border-radius:0px"><span class="gmail-cite-bracket" style="pointer-events: none;">[</span>44<span class="gmail-cite-bracket" style="pointer-events: none;">]</span></a></sup></p><p style="margin:0.5em 0px 1em;color:rgb(32,33,34);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:16px">In 1998, he was inducted as a Fellow of the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_History_Museum" title="Computer History Museum" style="text-decoration-line:none;background:none;border-radius:0px">Computer History Museum</a> "for his fundamental early work in the design and production of semiconductor devices as co-founder of Fairchild and Intel".<sup id="gmail-cite_ref-45" class="gmail-reference" style="line-height:1;unicode-bidi:isolate;font-size:12.8px"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gordon_Moore#cite_note-45" style="text-decoration-line:none;background:none;border-radius:0px"><span class="gmail-cite-bracket" style="pointer-events: none;">[</span>45<span class="gmail-cite-bracket" style="pointer-events: none;">]</span></a></sup></p><p style="margin:0.5em 0px 1em;color:rgb(32,33,34);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:16px">In 2001, Moore received the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Othmer_Gold_Medal" title="Othmer Gold Medal" style="text-decoration-line:none;background:none;border-radius:0px">Othmer Gold Medal</a> for outstanding contributions to progress in chemistry and science.<sup id="gmail-cite_ref-46" class="gmail-reference" style="line-height:1;unicode-bidi:isolate;font-size:12.8px"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gordon_Moore#cite_note-46" style="text-decoration-line:none;background:none;border-radius:0px"><span class="gmail-cite-bracket" style="pointer-events: none;">[</span>46<span class="gmail-cite-bracket" style="pointer-events: none;">]</span></a></sup><sup id="gmail-cite_ref-47" class="gmail-reference" style="line-height:1;unicode-bidi:isolate;font-size:12.8px"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gordon_Moore#cite_note-47" style="text-decoration-line:none;background:none;border-radius:0px"><span class="gmail-cite-bracket" style="pointer-events: none;">[</span>47<span class="gmail-cite-bracket" style="pointer-events: none;">]</span></a></sup> Moore was also the recipient of the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presidential_Medal_of_Freedom" title="Presidential Medal of Freedom" style="text-decoration-line:none;background:none;border-radius:0px">Presidential Medal of Freedom</a>, the United States' highest civilian honor, as of 2002.<sup id="gmail-cite_ref-48" class="gmail-reference" style="line-height:1;unicode-bidi:isolate;font-size:12.8px"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gordon_Moore#cite_note-48" style="text-decoration-line:none;background:none;border-radius:0px"><span class="gmail-cite-bracket" style="pointer-events: none;">[</span>48<span class="gmail-cite-bracket" style="pointer-events: none;">]</span></a></sup> He received the award from President <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_W._Bush" title="George W. Bush" style="text-decoration-line:none;background:none;border-radius:0px">George W. Bush</a>.<sup id="gmail-cite_ref-49" class="gmail-reference" style="line-height:1;unicode-bidi:isolate;font-size:12.8px"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gordon_Moore#cite_note-49" style="text-decoration-line:none;background:none;border-radius:0px"><span class="gmail-cite-bracket" style="pointer-events: none;">[</span>49<span class="gmail-cite-bracket" style="pointer-events: none;">]</span></a></sup> In 2002, Moore received the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Franklin_Institute_Awards" class="gmail-mw-redirect" title="The Franklin Institute Awards" style="text-decoration-line:none;background:none;border-radius:0px">Bower Award</a> for Business Leadership.<sup id="gmail-cite_ref-50" class="gmail-reference" style="line-height:1;unicode-bidi:isolate;font-size:12.8px"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gordon_Moore#cite_note-50" style="text-decoration-line:none;background:none;border-radius:0px"><span class="gmail-cite-bracket" style="pointer-events: none;">[</span>50</a></sup></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Oct 13, 2024 at 12:56 PM ggamota--- via LCTG <<a href="mailto:lctg@lists.toku.us">lctg@lists.toku.us</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="msg-8772172172484327523"><div lang="EN-US" style="overflow-wrap: break-word;"><div class="m_-8772172172484327523WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:rgb(31,73,125)">I agree, Physics is a HUGE tent. Basically physics is what physicists are interested in: biology – biophysics, astronomy – astrophysics. Many engineering faculties were populated by physicists especially when there were major advances, sch as Vacuum tubes to solid state, etc. <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:rgb(31,73,125)">I know John Hopfield. When he was at Bell Labs, he was a solid state guy who became fascinated with biology and wanted to bring physics to a basically descriptive field. Of DNA discovery, Wilkins, Crick were physicists, and the list goes on.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:rgb(31,73,125)">George<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><div><div style="border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:none;border-top:1pt solid rgb(225,225,225);padding:3pt 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> LCTG <lctg-bounces+ggamota=<a href="mailto:stma-llc.com@lists.toku.us" target="_blank">stma-llc.com@lists.toku.us</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Robert Primak via LCTG<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, October 13, 2024 8:16 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:carllazarus@comcast.net" target="_blank">carllazarus@comcast.net</a>; Larry Wittig <<a href="mailto:9423lew@gmail.com" target="_blank">9423lew@gmail.com</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:lctg@lists.toku.us" target="_blank">lctg@lists.toku.us</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Lex Computer & Tech Group/LCTG] Article which explains what we saw yesterday<u></u><u></u></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif">Catchy title, but I think she is being too strict in her distinctions.</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif">Physics, last I asked someone about it, is a big tent. </span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif">So is psychology. </span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif">-- Bob Primak </span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div></div><div id="m_-8772172172484327523yahoo_quoted_9247782617"><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">On Saturday, October 12, 2024 at 11:12:28 AM EDT, Larry Wittig via LCTG <<a href="mailto:lctg@lists.toku.us" target="_blank">lctg@lists.toku.us</a>> wrote: <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">Why the 2024 Nobel in Physics wasn't for physics.<br><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dR1ncz-Lozc" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dR1ncz-Lozc</a><br><br><br>On Thu, Oct 10, 2024 at 2:51 PM carllazarus--- via LCTG<br><<a href="mailto:lctg@lists.toku.us" target="_blank">lctg@lists.toku.us</a>> wrote:<br>><br>> I second Harry’s thanks to Peter Albin for coming up with such a great last-minute fill-in. John Hopfield’s talk went over my head, but I followed a lot of Geoffrey Hinton’s. Hinton’s talk also got my thinking there may actually be an existential threat. His idea that artificial intelligences could manipulate people so that we wouldn’t turn them off struck a chord.<br>><br>><br>><br>> -- Carl<br>><br>><br>><br>> From: LCTG <<a href="mailto:lctg-bounces+carllazarus=comcast.net@lists.toku.us" target="_blank">lctg-bounces+carllazarus=comcast.net@lists.toku.us</a>> On Behalf Of Harry Forsdick via LCTG<br>> Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2024 1:50 PM<br>> To: <a href="mailto:LCTG@lists.toku.us" target="_blank">LCTG@lists.toku.us</a><br>> Cc: Harry Forsdick <<a href="mailto:forsdick@gmail.com" target="_blank">forsdick@gmail.com</a>><br>> Subject: [Lex Computer & Tech Group/LCTG] Article which explains what we saw yesterday<br>><br>><br>><br>> Folks,<br>><br>><br>><br>> I thought yesterday's videos about the two people who one the 2024 Nobel Prize in Physics were both amazing -- even though I had no idea what John Hopfield was talking about. Geoffrey Hinton's talk was a lot more understandable -- probably because I have heard him before and have read up a lot more on the things for which he was awarded the prize. In any case, here is an article I found today about the two contributions for which the Nobel prize was awarded:<br>><br>> <a href="https://www.perplexity.ai/page/hopfield-and-hinton-win-nobel-MeAlPhntSDyKO4ZfQVWqbA" target="_blank">https://www.perplexity.ai/page/hopfield-and-hinton-win-nobel-MeAlPhntSDyKO4ZfQVWqbA</a><br>><br>> This came, interestingly enough from Perplexity.ai -- which is an excellent example of what can be done using the results of the two awardees.<br>><br>><br>><br>> For reference, here are URLs to the two videos we saw yesterday:<br>><br>> John Hopfield's Talk: Emergence, dynamics, and behaviour<br>> Geoffrey Hinton's Talk: The Godfather in Conversation: Why Geoffrey Hinton is worried about the future of AI<br>><br>> Thank you Peter Albin for finding these excellent videos for this last minute fill-in session of LCTG's weekly meeting. For me, this is an example of why I try to attend these meetings each week.<br>><br>><br>><br>> Regards,<br>><br>><br>><br>> -- Harry<br>><br>><br>><br>><br>><br>><br>><br>> Harry Forsdick<br>> Town Meeting Member Precinct 7<br>> <a href="mailto:harry@forsdick.com" target="_blank">harry@forsdick.com</a><br>> <a href="http://www.forsdick.com" target="_blank">www.forsdick.com</a><br>><br>><br>><br>> 46 Burlington St.<br>> Lexington, MA 02420<br>> (781) 799-6002 (mobile)<br>><br>><br>><br>> ===============================================<br>> ::The Lexington Computer and Technology Group Mailing List::<br>> Reply goes to sender only; Reply All to send to list.<br>> Send to the list: <a href="mailto:LCTG@lists.toku.us" target="_blank">LCTG@lists.toku.us</a> Message archives: <a href="http://lists.toku.us/pipermail/lctg-toku.us/" target="_blank">http://lists.toku.us/pipermail/lctg-toku.us/</a><br>> To subscribe: email <a href="mailto:lctg-subscribe@toku.us" target="_blank">lctg-subscribe@toku.us</a> To unsubscribe: email <a href="mailto:lctg-unsubscribe@toku.us" target="_blank">lctg-unsubscribe@toku.us</a><br>> Future and Past meeting information: <a href="http://LCTG.toku.us" target="_blank">http://LCTG.toku.us</a><br>> List information: <a href="http://lists.toku.us/listinfo.cgi/lctg-toku.us" target="_blank">http://lists.toku.us/listinfo.cgi/lctg-toku.us</a><br>> This message was sent to <a href="mailto:9423lew@gmail.com." target="_blank">9423lew@gmail.com.</a><br>> Set your list options: <a href="http://lists.toku.us/options.cgi/lctg-toku.us/9423lew@gmail.com" target="_blank">http://lists.toku.us/options.cgi/lctg-toku.us/9423lew@gmail.com</a><u></u><u></u></span></p><div id="m_-8772172172484327523yqtfd01670"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><br>===============================================<br>::The Lexington Computer and Technology Group Mailing List::<br>Reply goes to sender only; Reply All to send to list.<br>Send to the list: <a href="mailto:LCTG@lists.toku.us" target="_blank">LCTG@lists.toku.us</a> Message archives: <a href="http://lists.toku.us/pipermail/lctg-toku.us/" target="_blank">http://lists.toku.us/pipermail/lctg-toku.us/</a><br>To subscribe: email <a href="mailto:lctg-subscribe@toku.us" target="_blank">lctg-subscribe@toku.us</a> To unsubscribe: email <a href="mailto:lctg-unsubscribe@toku.us" target="_blank">lctg-unsubscribe@toku.us</a><br>Future and Past meeting information: <a href="http://LCTG.toku.us" target="_blank">http://LCTG.toku.us</a><br>List information: <a href="http://lists.toku.us/listinfo.cgi/lctg-toku.us" target="_blank">http://lists.toku.us/listinfo.cgi/lctg-toku.us</a><br>This message was sent to <a href="mailto:bobprimak@yahoo.com." target="_blank">bobprimak@yahoo.com.</a><br>Set your list options: <a href="http://lists.toku.us/options.cgi/lctg-toku.us/bobprimak@yahoo.com" target="_blank">http://lists.toku.us/options.cgi/lctg-toku.us/bobprimak@yahoo.com</a><u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>===============================================<br>
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