<div dir="auto">Some of my thoughts. </div><div><br></div><div dir="auto">Given that we were using the microphone in the room, that means that the room camera composite will be chosen by zoom. This is usually not what we want because we’d much rather have the speaker appear. So today we asked our speaker to turn on her laptop camera, and I spotlighted it. As a result, we were seeing her face as she was giving the presentation.</div><div dir="auto">So anyone who is in the role of host and controlling what is recorded, needs to know that they need to spotlight the person or persons who are speaking and of course, remove someone from the spotlight after they are done talking or asking their questions. </div><div dir="auto">This is similar to the way a technical Director handles recording a TV show, as he or she is busy selecting the active camera or cameras during a commercial video production.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">The composite camera coming from the room. It shows a composite of: audience left, audience right, and speaker. This has limited use and is not producing a result that is of the quality that at least I would like. </div><div dir="auto">This is in part because the images are very small, as there are three images that make up the video. </div><div dir="auto">It is also because the image that is supposedly of the person speaking, shifts, moves, zooms in and out, at apparently random times. It sometimes shows the speaker, sometimes shows the speaker and half the audience, and other times shows the feet of the speaker and the audience without showing the speaker’s face. This seems to change at random times during the presentation. It is frustrating if all you want to do is watch the face of the speaker presenting. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I’m currently producing the video from today’s presentation and the speaker is not always spotlighted so you can see several times during the video what the cameras look like coming from the room and I suspect you’ll see what I mean.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">WIBNIF. It would be nice if the camera aimed at the speaker stayed aimed at the speaker, all the speaker, and only the speaker, during the course of her presentation.</div><div dir="auto">WIBNIF It would be nice if there were two feeds coming from the LCC room. One being the speaker and only the speaker; and the other being a composite of the two cameras facing the audience in the room.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Maybe; the feed coming from the LCC room be only a composite of the two cameras facing the audience. And have the speaker use her camera on her laptop.</div><div dir="auto">Then, during the program the host could Spotlight the speaker; and when others speak, including those in the audience, the host could add a spotlight (on the other person speaking) or (the feed of the audience when someone from the audience was asking a question or making a comment) in addition to the spotlight on the speaker’s computer’s camera video. The two would show up side by side in the recording, and life would be good. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Please pardon my rambling and I hope that this will end up helping.</div><div dir="auto">-steve </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Dec 11, 2024 at 11:55 AM Harry Forsdick via LCTG <<a href="mailto:lctg@lists.toku.us">lctg@lists.toku.us</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><font color="#0b5394" face="verdana, sans-serif" size="4"><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(11,83,148)">I am writing down my impressions about today's meeting from the perspective of a remote user being involved in a meeting.</span></font></div><div><font color="#0b5394" face="verdana, sans-serif" size="4"><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(11,83,148)"><br></span></font></div><div><font color="#0b5394" face="verdana, sans-serif" size="4"><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(11,83,148)">I encourage others who were remote today to respond to these suggestions with your own impressions: feel free to add to or negate what I am saying below.</span></font></div><div><font color="#0b5394" face="verdana, sans-serif" size="4"><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(11,83,148)"><br></span></font></div><div><font color="#0b5394" face="verdana, sans-serif" size="4"><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(11,83,148)">-- Harry</span></font></div><div><font color="#0b5394" face="verdana, sans-serif" size="4"><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(11,83,148)"><br></span></font></div><div><font color="#0b5394" face="verdana, sans-serif" size="4"><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(11,83,148)">Here are some reactions to the meeting today. I am writing these in order of observation. Some of the early comments are corrected or improved by the later comments.</span><br></font><ol><li><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(11,83,148)">Initial setup in room 237 is good: there are only a couple of schemes of use (x?, y? and Hybrid -- which is what we want to use), and that is good. The improvements recommended here are intended to be to the small number of setups -- and in fact only got the Hybrid scheme because that is the only one I have any experience with<br><br></span></li><li><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(11,83,148)">Sound from Presenter and Audience is muffled. More for the Audience. Possible improvement for Presenter is a microphone at front to be closer -- or a lavalier mic to be fed through a mixer to make it part of the one audio stream coming out of the room and thus able to take advantage of the Zoom echo cancellation.<br></span><br clear="all"></li><li><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(11,83,148)">Zooming on the Presenter is ineffective because it zooms too much, missing the head of the presenter. Her own webcam is much better. Following the presenter around the room is not needed.<br><br></span></li><li><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(11,83,148)">There might be better use of the cameras to not have them zoom, but rather focus on particular parts of the room: </span></li><ol><li><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(11,83,148)">Aimed at the front where the presenter will be (performed by the camera at the rear of the room)</span></li><li><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(11,83,148)">Aimed at the front half of the audience (performed by, say, the front left camera)</span></li><li><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(11,83,148)">Aimed at the back half of the audience (performed by, say, the front right camera)<br><br></span></li></ol><li><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(11,83,148)">There is no need for the meeting room Zoom display to have one participant shown in the upper right corner because that has nothing to do with who is speaking. It looks like the first participant in the conference is chosen arbitrarily to be in this spot. It doesn't serve any purpose in the meeting room.<br></span><br></li><li><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(11,83,148)">Cross talking in the meeting room is really annoying because the audio of coming out of the room is already very difficult to listen to.<br><br></span></li><li><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(11,83,148)">12 people in the meeting room audience, 10 in the remote audience.<br><br></span></li><li><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(11,83,148)">This new system, which cost a LOT of money, is better in some ways than our ($800) homebrew system (ease of setup so that anybody can run this system and it is permanently installed. This is huge. It means that anybody in the group can control the meeting, not just a couple of people.<br><br></span></li><li><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(11,83,148)">When the meeting room audience asked a question, the zoomable camera tried to find the person, but the camera only localized the back of the head of the speaker. This is pretty disappointing. That is why I suggest a reallocation of the roles of the cameras.<br><br></span></li><li><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(11,83,148)">Even with all of my complaints about audio and zooming video, the combination of all the features, warts and all, is better than we've had before -- largely because it could be so easy to start the hybrid meeting,<br><br></span></li><li><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(11,83,148)">Remote attendees' voices are still excellent -- illustrating how bad the sound is from the meeting room.<br><br></span></li><li><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(11,83,148)">I think it would be better to make the rear camera fixed non zooming so that there is one camera that can see all of the audience, even if it isn't their face. Let the presenter's image come from their laptop. Devote one of the left and right cameras to the noise source, and leave out the third camera because it takes up too much space in the Hollywood squares grid. <b>It would be really good to have two or three streams coming out of the meeting room so that each of the room cameras could occupy the full area of a video stream.</b></span></li></ol><div><br></div></div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div style="text-align:left"><table cellspacing="5" cellpadding="5" style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:verdana;font-size:19.2px;background-color:rgb(238,238,238);margin-left:0px;margin-right:auto"><tbody><tr><td valign="top" style="font-size:10pt;width:306px"><span style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><a href="http://www.forsdick.com/resume/" rel="noopener" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank">Harry Forsdick</a><br><a href="http://lexingtontmma.org/" rel="noopener" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank">Town Meeting Member Precinct 7</a><br><a href="https://mail.google.com/mail/?view=cm&fs=1&tf=1&to=harry@forsdick.com" rel="noopener" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank">harry@forsdick.com</a><br></span><a href="http://www.forsdick.com/" rel="noopener" style="color:rgb(17,85,204);font-family:verdana,sans-serif" target="_blank">www.forsdick.com</a><span style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></span></td><td style="width:15px"><span style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"> </span></td><td valign="top" style="font-size:10pt;width:179px"><span style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><a href="https://goo.gl/xZXT2F" rel="noopener" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank">46 Burlington St.<br>Lexington, MA 02420</a><br><a href="callto:17817996002" rel="noopener" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank">(781) 799-6002 (mobile)</a><br></span></td></tr></tbody></table><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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