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<div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><div><div>There have been several renditions of the concept of a "Cosmic Zoom": </div><div><br></div><div>There was this one:</div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgfwCrKe_Fk" class="">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgfwCrKe_Fk</a></div><div><br></div><div>Cosmic Zoom</div><div>Directed by Eva Szasz - 1968 | 8 min</div><div><br></div><div>This film probes the infinite magnitude of space, and its reverse, the ultimate minuteness of matter. Animation art and animation camera achieve this journey to the farthest conceivable point of the universe and then into the tiniest particle of existence--an atom of a living human cell--with a freshness and clarity that would seem impossible with other means of exposition. Film without words.</div><div><br></div><div>Then this one:</div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fKBhvDjuy0" class="">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fKBhvDjuy0</a></div><div><br></div><div>Powers of Ten™ (1977) </div><div>Eames Office | 9:35 min:sec</div><div><br></div><div>Powers of Ten takes us on an adventure in magnitudes. Starting at a picnic by the lakeside in Chicago, this famous film transports us to the outer edges of the universe. Every ten seconds we view the starting point from ten times farther out until our own galaxy is visible only as a speck of light among many others. Returning to Earth with breathtaking speed, we move inward- into the hand of the sleeping picnicker- with ten times more magnification every ten seconds. Our journey ends inside a proton of a carbon atom within a DNA molecule in a white blood cell. POWERS OF TEN © 1977 EAMES OFFICE LLC (Available at www.eamesoffice.com)</div><div><br></div><div>Leading to this one:</div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQGz76_1feY" class="">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQGz76_1feY</a></div><div><br></div><div>A Cosmic Voyage w/ Morgan Freeman | 36:09 min:sec</div><div><br></div><div>Cosmic Voyage is a 1996 short documentary film produced in the IMAX format, directed by Bayley Silleck, produced by Jeffrey Marvin, and narrated by Morgan Freeman. </div><div><br></div><div>(Unfortunately, You Tube does not yet support the IMAX format.) (Joking.)</div><div><br></div><div>Equipped with his five senses man explores the Universe around him and calls the adventure Science.</div><div><br></div><div>And most recently, this one:</div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44cv416bKP4" class="">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44cv416bKP4</a></div><div><br></div><div>Scales of the Universe in Powers of Ten - Full HD 1080p</div><div>Yeşim Tomaç | 9:35 min:sec</div><div><br></div><div>Cosmic Voyage is a 1996 short documentary film produced in the IMAX format, directed by Bayley Silleck, produced by Jeffrey Marvin, and narrated by Morgan Freeman.</div><div><br></div><div>Cosmic Voyage has a format similar to Eva Szasz's Cosmic Zoom, and Charles and Ray Eames's classic Powers of Ten educational video. All were based on the 1957 book Cosmic View by Dutch educator Kees Boeke. Cosmic Voyage takes viewers on a journey through forty-two orders of magnitude, beginning at a celebration in Venice, Italy slowly zooming out into the edge of the observable universe. Then the view descends back to earth, and later zooms in upon a raindrop on a leaf on a hoop used in the celebration mentioned earlier, down to the level of subatomic particles (quarks).</div><div><br></div><div>And finally:</div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEprorLV0HE" class="">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEprorLV0HE</a></div><div><br></div><div>A Tour of the Universe Using Powers of Ten and Scientific Notation</div><div>Launch Pad Astronomy | 10:05 min:sec </div><div><br></div><div>Now that we understand Powers of Ten, we can take a tour of the Universe. Scientific notation allows us to express large numbers as multiples of powers of ten, such as the distance to the nearest planets, stars, the Milky Way galaxy, our Local Group of galaxies, and the universe as a whole.</div><div><br></div><div>These all use the powers of ten concept as their jumping-off point.</div><div><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Taken all together, these videos are about as long as one of our meetings. We wouldn't need (or want) to use them all. </div><div><br></div><div>-- Bob Primak </div></div><br></div><div><br></div>
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On Sunday, December 29, 2024 at 09:35:46 PM EST, Peter Albin via LCTG <lctg@lists.toku.us> wrote:
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<p>It is a link to a search, not a video. It does not work for me
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<div> On Sunday, December 29, 2024 at 09:18:05 PM EST,
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<p class="yiv2641947558MsoNormal">There was an
interesting video made more than a decade ago that
looked at, as I recall, size. It started with a
person, and then grew, piece by pice one order of
magnitude to show what things are like at different
scales. Then it did the same thing backwards by
1/10 at s time. I recall us showing the video at
the club a long time ago. Cannot recall what it was
called.</p>
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<p class="yiv2641947558MsoNormal">See this video <a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="https://www.google.com/search?q=video+progressively+making+units+biggr+by+a+factor+of+10&rlz=1C1VDKB_enUS1116US1116&oq=video+progressively+making+units+biggr+by+a+factor+of+10&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOTIJCAEQIRgKGKABMgkIAhAhGAoYoAEyCQgDECEYChigATIHCAQQIRirAjIHCAUQIRiPAtIBCTI1MDgyajBqN6gCCLACAQ&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:f8c8d350,vid:0fKBhvDjuy0,st:0">https://www.google.com/search?q=video+progressively+making+units+biggr+by+a+factor+of+10&rlz=1C1VDKB_enUS1116US1116&oq=video+progressively+making+units+biggr+by+a+factor+of+10&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOTIJCAEQIRgKGKABMgkIAhAhGAoYoAEyCQgDECEYChigATIHCAQQIRirAjIHCAUQIRiPAtIBCTI1MDgyajBqN6gCCLACAQ&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:f8c8d350,vid:0fKBhvDjuy0,st:0</a></p>
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<p class="yiv2641947558MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;"> LCTG
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Robert Primak via LCTG<br clear="none">
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, December 29, 2024 8:47
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Group <a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:lctg@lists.toku.us" target="_blank" href="mailto:lctg@lists.toku.us" class="yiv2641947558moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"><lctg@lists.toku.us></a>; Peter
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Lex Computer & Tech
Group/LCTG] Radiolab: What is the most
average size thing</span></p>
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<p class="yiv2641947558MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;">I agree about the
second part being of a nonscientific
interest. But nonetheless, of some interest,
I think. (Not to our group for meeting
purposes, of course.)</span></p>
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<p class="yiv2641947558MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;">The first part is
interesting from a technology point of view.
The engineers in our group are always
talking about doing "back of the envelope"
estimates of stuff, and that's exactly what
this segment was about. As with all such
estimates, certain assumptions had to be
made.</span></p>
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<p class="yiv2641947558MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;">I was curious about why
the idea of the Universe being 10^93 meters
across (based on Cosmic Inflation, not the
farthest that light has ever traveled) was
rejected out of hand. That would have made
the estimate orders of magnitude bigger. But
the use of the Planck Distance does seem
reasonable, because below that size the
fabric of space-time seems not to be
measurable as a distance.</span></p>
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<p class="yiv2641947558MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;">Interestingly enough,
at least a couple of sets of their
assumptions led to the same result, but that
might have been confirmation bias. </span></p>
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<p class="yiv2641947558MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;">Too bad this isn't a
video, because that would make it more
useful for a meeting. But maybe someone in
the group who is much better at math than I
am might try to develop a slide show based
on these estimates, and explain where some
of the assumptions may have come from. </span></p>
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Saturday, December 28, 2024 at 09:05:16 PM
EST, Peter Albin via LCTG <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:lctg@lists.toku.us" target="_blank" href="mailto:lctg@lists.toku.us" class="yiv2641947558moz-txt-link-freetext">lctg@lists.toku.us</a>>
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the first half of this Radiolab podcast
(~30 min) to answer </span></p>
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<p class="yiv2641947558MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;">"First,
after graduating from high school,
without a clear plan for what </span></p>
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<p class="yiv2641947558MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;">to do
next, Laura Andrews started asking
herself a lot of questions. A </span></p>
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big philosophical thoughts that led her
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with a question that was… oddly
mathematical. What is the most </span></p>
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<p class="yiv2641947558MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;">average
size thing, if you take into account
everything in the universe. </span></p>
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with mathematician Steven Strogatz, we
decided to see if we </span></p>
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down and, in a friendly throwdown of
guesstimates and quick </span></p>
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<p class="yiv2641947558MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;">calculations,
rough out an answer. "</span></p>
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are curious, the second segment (
specific moment in history when </span></p>
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tried to find the "average" human body)
is also interesting, </span></p>
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<p class="yiv2641947558MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;">though,
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