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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Thanks for the additional information, Ted. I agree that at some time in the future we will probably have enough non-fossil fuel energy to spare that hydrogen will make sense. Whether that will be from fusion, fission, deep geothermal, or something else, is hard to predict.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>-- Carl<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> Ted Kochanski <tedpkphd@gmail.com> <br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, April 9, 2025 6:38 PM<br><b>To:</b> carllazarus@comcast.net<br><b>Cc:</b> Lexington Computer Group New Address Distribution <LCTG@lists.toku.us><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Lex Computer & Tech Group/LCTG] Hydrogen Fuel Cell Powered Mobility<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Carl,<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>That isn't the point of the work cited in the article -- the time frame that Kawasaki Heavy Industries has in mind is 2050<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>By then if Fusion really turns out to be practical in the next decade then we will be well on our way to very available emission free electricity<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>That in turn will allow hydrogen and other hydrogen based liquid and gaseous fuels to become abundant and cheap<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Ted<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#500050'>Thaddeus Paul Kochanski, Ph.D. [Ted]</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p style='margin:0in;mso-line-height-alt:13.8pt'><b><i><span style='font-size:24.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:red'>IEEE Practical Fusion Power Initiative</span></i></b><span style='color:#500050'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:4.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:0in;mso-line-height-alt:13.8pt'><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#500050'>Sensors Signals Systems</span><span style='color:#500050'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0in;line-height:13.8pt'><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#500050'>Lexington, MA 02421</span><span style='color:#500050'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0in;line-height:13.8pt'><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#500050'>tel 781 861 6167</span><span style='color:#500050'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0in;line-height:13.8pt'><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#500050'>cel 781 507 5426</span><span style='color:#500050'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0in;line-height:13.8pt'><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#500050'>email <a href="mailto:tedpk@alum.mit.edu" target="_blank">tedpk@alum.mit.edu</a></span><span style='color:#500050'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0in;line-height:13.8pt'><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#500050'>Skype: Tedpkphd</span><span style='color:#500050'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0in;line-height:13.8pt'><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#500050'>Linked-in: <a href="http://linkedin.com/in/kochanski-tpk-sss" target="_blank">linkedin.com/in/kochanski-tpk-sss</a></span><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#500050'> </span><span style='color:#500050'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:4.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:0in;mso-line-height-alt:13.8pt'><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#500050'>MIT SB 1974 Physics</span></b><span style='color:#500050'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:.25in;mso-line-height-alt:13.8pt'><i><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#500050'>"Tokamak Equilibrium Without Copper Shell"</span></i><span style='color:#500050'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0in;mso-line-height-alt:13.8pt'><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#500050'>UT Austin Ph.D. 1981 Controlled Thermonuclear Fusion Research</span></b><span style='color:#500050'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:.25in;mso-line-height-alt:13.8pt'><i><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#500050'>"Characteristics of Low Frequency MHD Fluctuations in the Pretext Tokamak"</span></i><span style='color:#500050'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Wed, Apr 9, 2025 at 3:48<span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> </span>PM <<a href="mailto:carllazarus@comcast.net" target="_blank">carllazarus@comcast.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>This is like many articles touting emissions-free energy from hydrogen, this article fails to mention that making hydrogen currently creates a lot of emissions. As of now, producing hydrogen without those emissions is too costly.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>-- Carl</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> LCTG <lctg-bounces+carllazarus=<a href="mailto:comcast.net@lists.toku.us" target="_blank">comcast.net@lists.toku.us</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ted Kochanski via LCTG<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, April 9, 2025 12:13 PM<br><b>To:</b> Lexington Computer Group New Address Distribution <<a href="mailto:LCTG@lists.toku.us" target="_blank">LCTG@lists.toku.us</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> [Lex Computer & Tech Group/LCTG] Hydrogen Fuel Cell Powered Mobility</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='margin-top:22.5pt;margin-bottom:22.5pt;box-sizing:border-box;font-variant-numeric:inherit;font-variant-east-asian:inherit;font-variant-alternates:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;line-height:inherit;font-size-adjust:inherit;font-kerning:inherit;font-feature-settings:inherit' id="m_724215121269446107m_6547725796199054037m_-3060736760042555252gmail-hero"><div><h1 style='line-height:25.5pt;vertical-align:baseline'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"inherit",serif;color:#333333;font-weight:normal'>All, </span><o:p></o:p></h1><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;vertical-align:baseline'><span style='font-family:"inherit",serif;color:#333333'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;vertical-align:baseline'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"inherit",serif;color:#333333'>here's another take on electric mobility from LiveScience</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;vertical-align:baseline'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"inherit",serif;color:#333333'> </span><span style='font-family:"inherit",serif;color:#333333'><a href="https://www.livescience.com/technology/robotics/scientists-design-new-kind-of-robot-horse-that-you-can-one-day-ride-up-a-mountain" target="_blank">https://www.livescience.com/technology/robotics/scientists-design-new-kind-of-robot-horse-that-you-can-one-day-ride-up-a-mountain</a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;vertical-align:baseline'><span style='font-family:"inherit",serif;color:#333333'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><h1 style='line-height:25.5pt;vertical-align:baseline;font-weight:inherit;box-sizing:border-box;margin:0.5rem;font-style:inherit;font-variant:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;font-size-adjust:inherit;font-kerning:inherit;font-feature-settings:inherit'><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"inherit",serif;color:#333333'>Scientists reveal new hydrogen-powered ‘robot horse’ that could one day take you up a mountain</span><o:p></o:p></h1><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;line-height:17.25pt;vertical-align:baseline'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"inherit",serif;color:#333333'><a href="https://www.livescience.com/news" target="_blank"><span style='color:white;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in;background:#F9AE3B'>News</span></a></span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;line-height:17.25pt;vertical-align:baseline'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"inherit",serif;color:#333333;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in'>By <a href="https://www.livescience.com/author/jess-thomson" target="_blank"><span style='color:#026CA2'>Jess Thomson</span></a> published yesterday</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p style='margin-bottom:12.0pt;line-height:21.0pt;vertical-align:baseline;box-sizing:border-box;font-style:inherit;font-variant:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;font-size-adjust:inherit;font-kerning:inherit;font-feature-settings:inherit'><span style='font-size:15.0pt;font-family:"inherit",serif;color:#333333'>Japanese engineers have unveiled a concept design of the Corleo, a four-legged robotic horse that could one day carry people across a vast range of terrains.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p style='margin-bottom:12.0pt;line-height:21.0pt;vertical-align:baseline;box-sizing:border-box;font-style:inherit;font-variant:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;font-size-adjust:inherit;font-kerning:inherit;font-feature-settings:inherit'><span style='font-family:"inherit",serif;color:#333333'>A new type of robot inspired by an animal has been unveiled — and this time, it's a horse.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p style='margin-bottom:12.0pt;line-height:21.0pt;vertical-align:baseline;box-sizing:border-box;font-style:inherit;font-variant:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;font-size-adjust:inherit;font-kerning:inherit;font-feature-settings:inherit'><span style='font-family:"inherit",serif;color:#333333'>Corleo, a hydrogen-powered robot with four legs designed to be ridden by humans, has been announced by Japanese manufacturer Kawasaki Heavy Industries at a showcase event ahead of the Osaka-Kansai Expo 2025, which starts April 13. However, the robot is still in its concept phase of development; a functioning prototype has not been made public.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p style='margin:0in;line-height:21.0pt;vertical-align:baseline;box-sizing:border-box;font-style:inherit;font-variant:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;font-size-adjust:inherit;font-kerning:inherit;font-feature-settings:inherit'><span style='font-family:"inherit",serif;color:#333333'>This robot, unlike previous animal-shaped bots such as </span><span style='font-size:15.0pt;font-family:"inherit",serif;color:#333333'><a href="https://www.livescience.com/49760-robot-dog-boston-dynamics.html" target="_blank"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#026CA2;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in'>Boston Dynamics' dog Spot</span></a></span><span style='font-family:"inherit",serif;color:#333333'>, is designed for people to ride it as the machinery uses artificial intelligence (AI) and specially designed legs to navigate complex terrains...</span><o:p></o:p></p><p style='margin-bottom:12.0pt;line-height:21.0pt;vertical-align:baseline;box-sizing:border-box;font-style:inherit;font-variant:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;font-size-adjust:inherit;font-kerning:inherit;font-feature-settings:inherit'><span style='font-family:"inherit",serif;color:#333333'>Horse power</span><o:p></o:p></p><p style='margin-bottom:12.0pt;line-height:21.0pt;vertical-align:baseline;box-sizing:border-box;font-style:inherit;font-variant:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;font-size-adjust:inherit;font-kerning:inherit;font-feature-settings:inherit'><span style='font-family:"inherit",serif;color:#333333'>Kawasaki proposes that Corleo will have an AI system that enhances its balance and navigation, with the robot responding to the body movements of the rider — just like a real horse. The robot will also have a heads-up display in front of the rider much like a motorcycle does, showing important information.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p style='margin-bottom:12.0pt;line-height:21.0pt;vertical-align:baseline;box-sizing:border-box;font-style:inherit;font-variant:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;font-size-adjust:inherit;font-kerning:inherit;font-feature-settings:inherit'><span style='font-family:"inherit",serif;color:#333333'>"Equipped with an instrument panel that displays hydrogen level, route to the summit, center of gravity position, and other information. At night, it supports optimal riding by projecting markers onto the road surface to indicate the path ahead," Kawasaki representatives added.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p style='margin-bottom:12.0pt;line-height:21.0pt;vertical-align:baseline;box-sizing:border-box;font-style:inherit;font-variant:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;font-size-adjust:inherit;font-kerning:inherit;font-feature-settings:inherit'><span style='font-family:"inherit",serif;color:#333333'>Corleo will be driven by a 150cc engine powered by a hydrogen fuel cell. Hydrogen fuel cells work by converting chemical energy from hydrogen into electricity. Hydrogen gas is split into protons (H+) and electrons, and the electrons create electricity that can power the motor. This process produces zero emissions, with only water as a byproduct. Hydrogen fuel cells can easily be recharged by refuelling them with hydrogen gas.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p style='margin-bottom:12.0pt;line-height:21.0pt;vertical-align:baseline;box-sizing:border-box;font-style:inherit;font-variant:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;font-size-adjust:inherit;font-kerning:inherit;font-feature-settings:inherit'><span style='font-size:15.0pt;font-family:"inherit",serif;color:#333333'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p style='margin-bottom:12.0pt;line-height:21.0pt;vertical-align:baseline;box-sizing:border-box;font-style:inherit;font-variant:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;font-size-adjust:inherit;font-kerning:inherit;font-feature-settings:inherit'><span style='font-family:"inherit",serif;color:#333333'>Ted</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></body></html>