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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>My daughter had an HP ink subscription for her printer and when she cancelled the subscription, none of the subscription cartridges would work anymore. The printer kept working but the ink cartridges that came from the subscription wouldn’t. She was able to buy some locally and those worked.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Stan<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> LCTG <lctg-bounces+rosesta=gmail.com@lists.toku.us> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Robert Primak via LCTG<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, May 16, 2025 2:35 PM<br><b>To:</b> Evelyn Silber <evelynsilber@gmail.com>; Ted Kochanski <tedpkphd@gmail.com><br><b>Cc:</b> Lex Computer Group <lctg@lists.toku.us><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Lex Computer & Tech Group/LCTG] Printer Recommendations<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"helvetica neue",serif'>All good points, Ted. I too would not subscribe to any subscription service which could brick my hardware if it got interrupted for any reason. The Epson Eco-Tank ink subscription program is completely voluntary, and can be unsubscribed from without losing the ability to use the printer. Only Genuine Epson ink seems to be compatible. (I don't know how they enforce that with those printers.)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"helvetica neue",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"helvetica neue",serif'>-- Bob Primak <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"helvetica neue",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"helvetica neue",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div id="ydp1d347c00yahoo_quoted_7604071359"><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"helvetica neue",serif'>On Friday, May 16, 2025 at 02:31:01 PM EDT, Ted Kochanski via LCTG <<a href="mailto:lctg@lists.toku.us">lctg@lists.toku.us</a>> wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"helvetica neue",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"helvetica neue",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div id=ydp1d347c00yiv5351569037><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"helvetica neue",serif'>All,<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"helvetica neue",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"helvetica neue",serif'>Never -- NEVER subscribe to an ink service<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"helvetica neue",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"helvetica neue",serif'>I had a very nice HP Office Jet all in one -- Indeed I still have it -- sitting forlorn and unused for almost a year<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"helvetica neue",serif'>To make a long and very unpleasant litany of events somewhat short<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><ol start=1 type=1><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"helvetica neue",serif'>I subscribed to the HP ink cartridge supply service [subsequently I expanded it to paper as well]<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"helvetica neue",serif'>All was well and good for the first year<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"helvetica neue",serif'>My credit card to which things were billed expired and before I could update the system <o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"helvetica neue",serif'>The printer refused to talk to the computer<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"helvetica neue",serif'>The ink cartridges stopped coming but the billing continued<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"helvetica neue",serif'>no manner of human intervention stopped the process until -- we called the bank -- and utilized my wife's experience as a retired banker -- to stop the most recent payment<o:p></o:p></span></li></ol><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"helvetica neue",serif'>Meanwhile I bought an Epson Eco-tank and have been fine with its printing and I still have plenty of ink in the bottles<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"helvetica neue",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"helvetica neue",serif'>Ted<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"helvetica neue",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"helvetica neue",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"helvetica neue",serif'>On Fri, May 16, 2025 at 11:59 AM Evelyn Silber via LCTG <<a href="mailto:lctg@lists.toku.us" target="_blank">lctg@lists.toku.us</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"helvetica neue",serif'>Color and yes, she needs a scanner.<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"helvetica neue",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"helvetica neue",serif'>Evelyn Silber<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"helvetica neue",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"helvetica neue",serif'>On Fri, May 16, 2025 at 10:03 AM Peter Albin via LCTG <<a href="mailto:lctg@lists.toku.us" target="_blank">lctg@lists.toku.us</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"helvetica neue",serif'>Black and white only or color?<br>Does she need/use a scanner?<br>Peter<br><br>> On May 16, 2025, at 9:47 AM, Daniel Silber via LCTG <<a href="mailto:lctg@lists.toku.us" target="_blank">lctg@lists.toku.us</a>> wrote:<br>> <br>> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"helvetica neue",serif'><br>> Hello All,<br>> <br>> My daughter works from home. Her small business occasionally needs a printer. She is looking for an all-in-one inkjet printer that is reliable and doesn't go through a lot of expensive cartridges due to ink drying up.<br>> <br>> She has cats, so I would advise keeping the printer covered when not in use. Other than that, I am leaning toward the technology of Canon and HP where the cartridge includes the actual ink jets.<br>> <br>> I have a Canon TR7020a. The hardware has been reliable. Every so often I have a problem with the software connecting via WiFi.<br>> <br>> There are a huge number of printer models on the market and the articles that rate printers often discuss models that are not available. None explains the "whys and wherefores" of the competing technologies. Perhaps someone in this group is aware of an article explaining the differences between various manufacturers/models, or perhaps has some exceptionally good or bad experiences. 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