<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#0b5394">This is my reply, with some options to consider, that I sent to a smaller group.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#0b5394"><br></div><blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 40px;border:none;padding:0px"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#0b5394"><div class="gmail_default">To consider:</div></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#0b5394"><div class="gmail_default">If you have an old machine that you want to move away from Windows 10, consider Linux Mint.</div></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#0b5394"><div class="gmail_default">Pro: free, similar to Windows, runs on old hardware</div></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#0b5394"><div class="gmail_default">Con: You can't run MS Office -- but you can run LibreOffice that is very much like MS Office (and is free).</div></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#0b5394"><div class="gmail_default"><br></div></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#0b5394"><div class="gmail_default">Or else you could buy a new PC to run windows 11 </div></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#0b5394"><div class="gmail_default">or buy a MacBook to get totally out of the Microsoft environment</div></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#0b5394"><div class="gmail_default">or you could consider a Chromebook</div></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#0b5394"><div class="gmail_default">or you could buy a refurbished PC (starting under $200) or MacBook (even less) or Chromebook (starting under $100) -- check <a href="https://backmarket.com/" target="_blank">https://backmarket.com</a> (I learned of them from Harry and I've had many happy refurbs from them).</div></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#0b5394"><div class="gmail_default"><br></div></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#0b5394"><div class="gmail_default">Re: Linux, we had a meeting on setting up a Linux machine a while back (December 2021). Should we have another, where we take an old PC and then install Linux, set it up, and demonstrate how to use it?</div></div></blockquote><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#0b5394"><div class="gmail_default"><br></div><div class="gmail_default">Regards,</div><div class="gmail_default">-steve</div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 12:04 PM Peter Albin via LCTG <<a href="mailto:lctg@lists.toku.us">lctg@lists.toku.us</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><u></u>
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<p>George, et al.,</p>
<p>Upgrading an "old" computer to windows 11 does require some
technical knowledge as Bob has suggested. You can run a
comparability test (from Microsoft <a href="https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/check-if-a-device-meets-windows-11-system-requirements-after-changing-device-hardware-f3bc0aeb-6884-41a1-ab57-88258df6812b" target="_blank">here</a>)
to determine the reason you cannot run the software. From my
experience it is the use of a relatively new security feature in
the CPU and all programs should work correctly. The workarounds
that are suggested all involve "faking" the installation program
to believe that this feature is present.</p>
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</p>
<p>That said, the security upgrade is not critical as all the
information on the windows 10 computer is already on the dark web!</p>
<p>:)<br>
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<p>I would ask a more basic question, what task are you trying to
perform on the "old" windows 10 machine that you believe windows
11 can solve?</p>
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</p>
<p>I would not be concerned about the future of windows 10. I would
either purchase new hardware that supports windows 11 or continue
using the windows 10 computer until you are forced to purchase a
new machine. Who knows, it may last until Windows 12 or 13!</p>
<p>Peter</p>
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<div>On 6/19/2025 11:18 PM, ggamota--- via
LCTG wrote:<br>
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Guys</div>
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I came across this video of how to upgrade to Windows 11 even
though your computer processor does not meet Microsoft's
criteria.</div>
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<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_p3dBrr_Sg" id="m_3918314936798482997LPlnk258394" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_p3dBrr_Sg</a></div>
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<a id="m_3918314936798482997LPUrlAnchor715750" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_p3dBrr_Sg" style="text-decoration:none" target="_blank">Install Windows 11 on ANY
Windows 10 PC with NO data loss!</a></div>
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<a href="http://www.youtube.com" target="_blank">www.youtube.com</a></div>
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Any thoughts? Has anybody tried it?</div>
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George</div>
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PS I haven't tried it but thinking about it on an older computer</div>
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