<div dir="ltr"><div>I tried them all on this photo, and results ranged from <1% likely A.I. through 37% likely to 65% likely. I've never seen so much variation. But some of them specialize in facial recognition.</div><div><br></div><div><img src="cid:ii_mdz03eai1" alt="image.png" width="562" height="374"><br></div><div><br></div><div>I'm a car guy and this vehicle doesn't show me obvious A.I. signals. The door hardware is rather sketchy as is the gratuitous ornamentation. But the smoking gun may be a Google image search with the same vehicle in the same place, but red:</div><div><br></div><div><img src="cid:ii_mdz073gr2" alt="image.png" width="562" height="503"><br></div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><br></div><img src="https://ci3.googleusercontent.com/mail-sig/AIorK4zxepmnLIKmYitiu77ai2nm7FH3JgppsFmboNJcBNbCpE2xbStskZTbPr8HLs0B93HPIiuiX1E"><br><div>Don Cooke, Site 523, 603.219.9259<br></div></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Aug 5, 2025 at 12:06 PM Robert Primak via LCTG <<a href="mailto:lctg@lists.toku.us">lctg@lists.toku.us</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><div></div>
<div dir="ltr"><span>I'm not familiar with these resources, but here's what it looks like, from visiting these sites:</span></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><span><a href="https://link.mail.beehiiv.com/ss/c/u001.2IMLVmXoIhYqe4rOLa6UD1FratNxxffM0cBVrcQkh5rUpE7PoGOou4zO-Rmu2Y7T5jbooe76VyalViXjPcp631wOUinrv8otu7x_Zi0_sCIoCDwlVcv1PhwA1NL0QqQIqj9TUTelNAKAlaCIsVv7WoXkFcPZkRhiZpDw8QTW-JEbIGBz6pr8kBprBnkZ1YKz/4is/y1TG-mUJROGZB_4bHFrGEw/h5/h001.Y2Hr9QwtoBJz92HjaDcxCUDMKbD30Mg27iHfoKgnE1M" style="color:rgb(75,93,255);font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><b><span style="color:rgb(0,38,106)">DeepFake-o-meter</span></b></a><b style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">: The site says the tool is free to use, with a caution. This tool is a research prototype, so it may not be as reliable as a full production tool. The service was recently offline, as Kim Komando found out, but it is back online. Perhaps if we have a download of Kim Komando's image, we could submit it to the site and see what it says?</b></span><br></div><div dir="ltr"><span><b style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><br></b></span></div><div dir="ltr"><span><a href="https://link.mail.beehiiv.com/ss/c/u001.cEVqIqxGBrwV8gkFg5bJzjAyoyLwTnprZmojO6P5iVi37id8nsjtg_mne67yyDsEgcl-gazgo3L-aA5q5x_D1I_B_vJLVmVCNWGGhJtTMd6u01CZUX7-0WQWDSJ1EtQXGZ61gN1kLSpOz1YLmaCVf6Fkx_8pC7d5YkPws7P1Dtc/4is/y1TG-mUJROGZB_4bHFrGEw/h6/h001.5nQTETlMURCoafVFYACBuhahFbAavy0auuGRn9kAYuA" style="color:rgb(75,93,255);font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><b><span style="color:rgb(0,38,106)">Sightengine</span></b></a><b style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">: This is a production tool, meant to process images in bulk rapidly. It has a free tier, for up to 2000 images per month (500 per day). We have Kim's result whe<span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">n she submitted her image to this site. </span></span></b></span><br></div><div dir="ltr"><span><b style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><br></span></span></b></span></div><div dir="ltr"><span><b style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><span><a href="https://link.mail.beehiiv.com/ss/c/u001.6vuVJVhO7XvHcxfbfE-QEwmwvVc4E3HzlNQH_uACcuNx0vTmug3yl5YZ1HkZc6NTV6drjO1p2balhwk6E17AJ6jHOb_SHYJ1VCEwNs2oow-9QFHkexJYHG79r3oGjk0IwczA9ZDKX-Y4ctX2ga0UHsVhA_B-ABc24re_65mAhEYv9g_lx0_9cwO6BgXM3eal/4is/y1TG-mUJROGZB_4bHFrGEw/h7/h001.nzs_934AuZVpsfk2D5zK0agfM4pF1yX9YRlaQezpjso" style="color:rgb(75,93,255);font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><b><span style="color:rgb(0,38,106)">Hive’s AI-generated image detector</span></b></a><b style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">:</b><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"> Pricing is not discussed at this site. This is a professional production tool, aimed at sites or services which need to moderate content on a large scale in real time. What Kim Komando used was most likely their free demo, which may lack the full features of the paid service.</span></span><br></span></span></b></span></div><div dir="ltr"><span><b style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><br></span></span></span></span></b></span></div><div dir="ltr"><span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">I haven't used any of these services myself. I also haven't seen the article in which Kim Komando described these services and discussed the results of uploading her image to be tested. </span></span></span></span></div><div dir="ltr"><span><b style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><br></span></span></span></span></b></span></div><div dir="ltr"><span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">-- Bob Primak </span></span></span></span></div><div><br></div><div><br></div>
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On Tuesday, August 5, 2025 at 08:01:24 AM EDT, John Rudy via LCTG <<a href="mailto:lctg@lists.toku.us" target="_blank">lctg@lists.toku.us</a>> wrote:
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<div><div id="m_-2732563604336021966ydp37504bd0yiv2788569254"><div><div><p>The info below is from today’s Kim Komando newsletter. She used them on a photo that AI created for her.</p><p> </p><p style="margin-right:7.5pt;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:47.25pt;line-height:150%"><span style="font-size:10pt;line-height:150%;font-family:Symbol"><span>·<span style="font-style:normal;font-size-adjust:none;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:"Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><a href="https://link.mail.beehiiv.com/ss/c/u001.2IMLVmXoIhYqe4rOLa6UD1FratNxxffM0cBVrcQkh5rUpE7PoGOou4zO-Rmu2Y7T5jbooe76VyalViXjPcp631wOUinrv8otu7x_Zi0_sCIoCDwlVcv1PhwA1NL0QqQIqj9TUTelNAKAlaCIsVv7WoXkFcPZkRhiZpDw8QTW-JEbIGBz6pr8kBprBnkZ1YKz/4is/y1TG-mUJROGZB_4bHFrGEw/h5/h001.Y2Hr9QwtoBJz92HjaDcxCUDMKbD30Mg27iHfoKgnE1M" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><b><span style="color:rgb(0,38,106)">DeepFake-o-meter</span></b></a><b>:</b> Upload a photo or video, and it’ll scan it with multiple detection models to tell you how fake it might be. I got a “server busy” message testing my princes’ image. </p><p style="margin-right:7.5pt;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:47.25pt;line-height:150%"><span style="font-size:10pt;line-height:150%;font-family:Symbol"><span>·<span style="font-style:normal;font-size-adjust:none;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:"Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><a href="https://link.mail.beehiiv.com/ss/c/u001.cEVqIqxGBrwV8gkFg5bJzjAyoyLwTnprZmojO6P5iVi37id8nsjtg_mne67yyDsEgcl-gazgo3L-aA5q5x_D1I_B_vJLVmVCNWGGhJtTMd6u01CZUX7-0WQWDSJ1EtQXGZ61gN1kLSpOz1YLmaCVf6Fkx_8pC7d5YkPws7P1Dtc/4is/y1TG-mUJROGZB_4bHFrGEw/h6/h001.5nQTETlMURCoafVFYACBuhahFbAavy0auuGRn9kAYuA" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><b><span style="color:rgb(0,38,106)">Sightengine</span></b></a><b>:</b> A behind-the-scenes powerhouse that spots digital tampering, even if the naked eye can’t. It gave me 99% that the princes were fake. </p><p style="margin-right:7.5pt;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:47.25pt;line-height:150%"><span style="font-size:10pt;line-height:150%;font-family:Symbol"><span>·<span style="font-style:normal;font-size-adjust:none;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:"Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><a href="https://link.mail.beehiiv.com/ss/c/u001.6vuVJVhO7XvHcxfbfE-QEwmwvVc4E3HzlNQH_uACcuNx0vTmug3yl5YZ1HkZc6NTV6drjO1p2balhwk6E17AJ6jHOb_SHYJ1VCEwNs2oow-9QFHkexJYHG79r3oGjk0IwczA9ZDKX-Y4ctX2ga0UHsVhA_B-ABc24re_65mAhEYv9g_lx0_9cwO6BgXM3eal/4is/y1TG-mUJROGZB_4bHFrGEw/h7/h001.nzs_934AuZVpsfk2D5zK0agfM4pF1yX9YRlaQezpjso" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><b><span style="color:rgb(0,38,106)">Hive’s AI-generated image detector</span></b></a><b>:</b> Used by major media outlets to tell if that photo of the pope in a Balenciaga jacket is AI (Spoiler: It was). Yup, the princes are 99% AI foolery here, too. </p><p style="margin-right:7.5pt;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:0in;line-height:150%"> </p><p style="margin-right:7.5pt;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:0in;line-height:150%">I’ve never used any of these and haven’t checked out prices but that is my next step (unless one of you does it first)</p><p style="margin-right:7.5pt;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:0in;line-height:150%">John</p><p> </p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">John Rudy</span></p><p><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"> </span></p><p><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">781-861-0402</span></p><p><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">781-718-8334 cell</span></p><p><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">13 Hawthorne Lane</span></p><p><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Bedford MA</span></p><p><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><a href="mailto:jjrudy1@comcast.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">jjrudy1@comcast.net</a></span></p><p><span style="font-size:11pt"><img border="0" style="width: 124px; max-width: 248px;" id="m_-2732563604336021966ydp37504bd0yiv2788569254Picture_x0020_1" src="cid:ii_1987befbf7e4cff311"></span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"></span></p><p> </p></div></div></div>===============================================<br>::The Lexington Computer and Technology Group Mailing List::<br>Reply goes to sender only; Reply All to send to list.<br>Send to the list: <a href="mailto:LCTG@lists.toku.us" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">LCTG@lists.toku.us</a> Message archives: <a href="http://lists.toku.us/pipermail/lctg-toku.us/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://lists.toku.us/pipermail/lctg-toku.us/</a><br>To subscribe: email <a href="mailto:lctg-subscribe@toku.us" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">lctg-subscribe@toku.us</a> To unsubscribe: email <a href="mailto:lctg-unsubscribe@toku.us" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">lctg-unsubscribe@toku.us</a><br>Future and Past meeting information: <a href="http://LCTG.toku.us" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://LCTG.toku.us</a><br>List information: <a href="http://lists.toku.us/listinfo.cgi/lctg-toku.us" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://lists.toku.us/listinfo.cgi/lctg-toku.us</a><br>This message was sent to <a href="mailto:bobprimak@yahoo.com." rel="nofollow" target="_blank">bobprimak@yahoo.com.</a><br>Set your list options: <a href="http://lists.toku.us/options.cgi/lctg-toku.us/bobprimak@yahoo.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://lists.toku.us/options.cgi/lctg-toku.us/bobprimak@yahoo.com</a><br></div>
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