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<div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><font size="3">Well, it's at least as private as Amazon's Alexa from their home assistant series of IoT devices. <img title="Emoji" alt="Emoji" class="yahoo-emoji-wrapper" height="20" src="https://s.yimg.com/nq/yemoji_assets/latest/yemoji_assets/1f914.png" width="20" style="padding: 0px 2px; vertical-align: middle;" data-inlineimagemanipulating="true"></font></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" style=""><font size="3"><br></font></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><font size="3">Google's drive and email services and Yahoo's email services do exactly the same thing. <img title="Emoji" alt="Emoji" class="yahoo-emoji-wrapper" height="20" src="https://s.yimg.com/nq/yemoji_assets/latest/yemoji_assets/1f641.png" width="20" style="padding: 0px 2px; vertical-align: middle;" data-inlineimagemanipulating="true"></font><br><font size="3"><span></span></font></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" style=""><font size="3"><br></font></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><font size="3">If you want it to be private, encrypt it before uploading it. <img title="Emoji" alt="Emoji" class="yahoo-emoji-wrapper" height="20" src="https://s.yimg.com/nq/yemoji_assets/latest/yemoji_assets/1f642.png" width="20" style="padding: 0px 2px; vertical-align: middle;" data-inlineimagemanipulating="true"></font></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" style=""><font size="3"><br></font></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><font size="3">Oh wait, Microsoft has a Cloud-first save default. Sorry, my bad. You can't encrypt these automatic OneDrive saves. <img title="Emoji" alt="Emoji" class="yahoo-emoji-wrapper" height="20" src="https://s.yimg.com/nq/yemoji_assets/latest/yemoji_assets/1f620.png" width="20" style="padding: 0px 2px; vertical-align: middle;" data-inlineimagemanipulating="true"> (This applies especially to Office 365 and Outlook.com.) </font></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><font size="3"><br></font></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><font size="3">So how's Apple's privacy in iCloud looking these days? <img title="Emoji" alt="Emoji" class="yahoo-emoji-wrapper" height="20" src="https://s.yimg.com/nq/yemoji_assets/latest/yemoji_assets/1f601.png" width="20" style="padding: 0px 2px; vertical-align: middle;" data-inlineimagemanipulating="true"></font></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><font size="3"><br></font></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><font size="3">Since these services all include subscription upgrades, I see no argument that for a free service, you are the product. These services are free as in free beer. Once you really start using them, you have to pay for more storage or subscribe to a paid product or service. </font></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" style=""><font size="3"><br></font></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><font size="3">-- Bob Primak </font></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" style="font-size: 13px;"><br></div><div style="font-size: 13px;"><br></div>
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On Saturday, November 1, 2025 at 01:27:06 PM EDT, John Rudy via LCTG <lctg@lists.toku.us> wrote:
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<div><div id="ydp8ba543b3yiv5405596391"><div><div class="ydp8ba543b3yiv5405596391WordSection1"><p class="ydp8ba543b3yiv5405596391MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;">This is like “AI searches are private and not remembered”. Well, maybe</span></p><p class="ydp8ba543b3yiv5405596391MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;"> </span></p><p class="ydp8ba543b3yiv5405596391MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;">If you do a search on bomb making expect to get an FBI visit</span></p><p class="ydp8ba543b3yiv5405596391MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;"> </span></p><p class="ydp8ba543b3yiv5405596391MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;">John Rudy</span></p><p class="ydp8ba543b3yiv5405596391MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;"> </span></p><p class="ydp8ba543b3yiv5405596391MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;">781-861-0402</span></p><p class="ydp8ba543b3yiv5405596391MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;">781-718-8334 cell</span></p><p class="ydp8ba543b3yiv5405596391MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;">13 Hawthorne Lane</span></p><p class="ydp8ba543b3yiv5405596391MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;">Bedford MA</span></p><p class="ydp8ba543b3yiv5405596391MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;"><a shape="rect" href="mailto:jjrudy1@comcast.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><span style="color:#467886;">jjrudy1@comcast.net</span></a></span></p><p class="ydp8ba543b3yiv5405596391MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;"><img id="ydp8ba543b3yiv5405596391Picture_x0020_988905066" border="0" style="width: 124px; max-width: 248px;" src="cid:8xJz4llZPUM8kuWwGDel" data-inlineimagemanipulating="true"></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;"></span></p><p class="ydp8ba543b3yiv5405596391MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;"> </span></p><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;"><div id="ydp8ba543b3yiv5405596391yqtfd01693" class="ydp8ba543b3yiv5405596391yqt1293910085"><p class="ydp8ba543b3yiv5405596391MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;"> Rich Moffitt <rich@richmoffitt.org> <br clear="none"><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, November 1, 2025 11:15 AM<br clear="none"><b>To:</b> john rudy <jjrudy1@comcast.net><br clear="none"><b>Cc:</b> Lex Computer Group <lctg@lists.toku.us><br clear="none"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Lex Computer & Tech Group/LCTG] one drive -- Interesting</span></p></div></div><div id="ydp8ba543b3yiv5405596391yqtfd79753" class="ydp8ba543b3yiv5405596391yqt1293910085"><p class="ydp8ba543b3yiv5405596391MsoNormal"> </p><div><div><p style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;" class="ydp8ba543b3yiv5405596391MsoNormal">Hi, John. What you're seeing isn't sharing with other people (not even Microsoft employees, through a combination of encryption, access controls, and pinky swears). Microsoft would probably tell you that what you saw is still considered "private to you." Instead, it's software services built into the platform reading the files that you uploaded to them to deliver the memories feature.</p><div><div><p class="ydp8ba543b3yiv5405596391MsoNormal">On Sat, Nov 1, 2025, 10:05<span style="font-family:sans-serif;"> </span>AM John Rudy via LCTG <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:lctg@lists.toku.us" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">lctg@lists.toku.us</a>> wrote:</p></div><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in;"><div><div><p class="ydp8ba543b3yiv5405596391MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;">I have just started getting messages from onedrive (OneDrive <a shape="rect" href="mailto:photos@onedrive.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">photos@onedrive.com</a>) containing a small group of photos and the message</span></p><p class="ydp8ba543b3yiv5405596391MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;"><img id="ydp8ba543b3yiv5405596391m_-382276339615469715_x005f_x0000_i1026" border="0" style="width: 592px; max-width: 800px;" src="cid:UhhhKL6m6bt1WWVIAz0z" data-inlineimagemanipulating="true"></span></p><p class="ydp8ba543b3yiv5405596391MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;"> </span></p><p class="ydp8ba543b3yiv5405596391MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;">I thought my onedrive account was private to me. Apparently not.</span></p><p class="ydp8ba543b3yiv5405596391MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;">When I click on “View all memories” I am asked to log in to Microsoft.</span></p><p class="ydp8ba543b3yiv5405596391MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;"> </span></p><p class="ydp8ba543b3yiv5405596391MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;">I went to <a shape="rect" href="http://gemini.ai" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">gemini.ai</a> and asked about onedrive privacy. Here is a portion of what it responded:</span></p><p class="ydp8ba543b3yiv5405596391MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;"> </span></p><p class="ydp8ba543b3yiv5405596391MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;">Managing your OneDrive photos' privacy involves controlling sharing permissions and using specific privacy features. Here are the main ways to do so: </span></p><p class="ydp8ba543b3yiv5405596391MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;">1. Control Sharing Permissions</span></b></p><p class="ydp8ba543b3yiv5405596391MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;">The most direct way to manage privacy is by controlling who has access to your files and folders. </span></p><ul type="disc"><li class="ydp8ba543b3yiv5405596391MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;">Sharing Individual Photos/Folders:</span></b></li></ul><ul type="disc"><ul type="circle"><li class="ydp8ba543b3yiv5405596391MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;">Right-click</span></b><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;"> on the photo or folder you want to manage.</span></li><li class="ydp8ba543b3yiv5405596391MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;">Select <b>Share</b> or <b>Manage access</b> [1].</span></li><li class="ydp8ba543b3yiv5405596391MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;">In the sharing dialogue, you can:</span></li></ul></ul><ul type="disc"><ul type="circle"><ul type="circle"><li class="ydp8ba543b3yiv5405596391MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;">See who currently has access [1].</span></li></ul></ul></ul><ul type="disc"><ul type="circle"><ul type="circle"><li class="ydp8ba543b3yiv5405596391MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;">Stop sharing entirely.</span></li></ul></ul></ul><ul type="disc"><ul type="circle"><ul type="circle"><li class="ydp8ba543b3yiv5405596391MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;">Change permissions from "can edit" to "can view" (read-only).</span></li></ul></ul></ul><ul type="disc"><ul type="circle"><ul type="circle"><li class="ydp8ba543b3yiv5405596391MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;">Remove specific users [1].</span></li></ul></ul></ul><ul type="disc"><ul type="circle"><ul type="circle"><li class="ydp8ba543b3yiv5405596391MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;">Set an expiration date for the shared link [1].</span></li></ul></ul></ul><ul type="disc"><ul type="circle"><ul type="circle"><li class="ydp8ba543b3yiv5405596391MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;">Set a password for the link (with a Microsoft 365 subscription) [1].</span></li></ul></ul></ul><p class="ydp8ba543b3yiv5405596391MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;"> </span></p><p class="ydp8ba543b3yiv5405596391MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;">John Rudy</span></p><p class="ydp8ba543b3yiv5405596391MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;"> </span></p><p class="ydp8ba543b3yiv5405596391MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;">781-861-0402</span></p><p class="ydp8ba543b3yiv5405596391MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;">781-718-8334 cell</span></p><p class="ydp8ba543b3yiv5405596391MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;"><a shape="rect" href="https://www.google.com/maps/search/13+Hawthorne+Lane+Bedford+MA?entry=gmail&source=g" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">13 Hawthorne Lane</a></span></p><p class="ydp8ba543b3yiv5405596391MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;"><a shape="rect" href="https://www.google.com/maps/search/13+Hawthorne+Lane+Bedford+MA?entry=gmail&source=g" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Bedford MA</a></span></p><p class="ydp8ba543b3yiv5405596391MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;"><a shape="rect" href="mailto:jjrudy1@comcast.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">jjrudy1@comcast.net</a></span></p><p class="ydp8ba543b3yiv5405596391MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;"><img id="ydp8ba543b3yiv5405596391m_-382276339615469715Picture_x0020_1" border="0" style="width: 124px; 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