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--></style></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt'>Yogi Berra said, <b>"It's tough to make predictions, especially about the future"<o:p></o:p></b></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt'>The dilemma here is that we really do not know what any large company will do with what data in the future. For a year all the AI systems said that after your session that the data was no longer used in the future. This, apparently, is no longer quite true.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt'>So the moral is to keep as much data private as you can, but assume that everything is out there. It probably won’t make you feel better, but you can do searches on yourself and see what you find.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt'>John<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>John Rudy<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>781-861-0402<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>781-718-8334 cell<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>13 Hawthorne Lane<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Bedford MA<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><a href="mailto:jjrudy1@comcast.net"><span style='color:#467886'>jjrudy1@comcast.net</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><img border=0 width=124 height=114 style='width:1.2916in;height:1.1875in' id="Picture_x0020_1" src="cid:image001.png@01DC87BA.B6C0FCC0"></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> LCTG <lctg-bounces+jjrudy1=comcast.net@lists.toku.us> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Harry Forsdick via LCTG<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, January 17, 2026 1:32 PM<br><b>To:</b> OLGA P GUTTAG <opg1000@rcn.com><br><b>Cc:</b> Harry Forsdick <forsdick@gmail.com>; lctg@lists.toku.us<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Lex Computer & Tech Group/LCTG] [ PFIR ] Gemini AI may already be enabled by default in your Gmail -- Google says it will share with law enforcement, etc. I DO NOT TRUST GOOGLE.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Olga said:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>“Though Google had our info since we started using their products, their stated policy was to protect any information they had about us from outsiders, including the govt.”<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>I’m not sure they were any different than other internet information providers: they all followed the requests of the government for information about their clients activities if the government filed the proper requests. </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>What might be different now is the superior ways AI programs can handle such information in reasoning about its meaning, and the possibility of commingling user’s data in their databases of “knowledge”. </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>I don’t see this as an intentional plan by Google to help the Government spy on individuals. </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Just to check, I ran Olga’s statement through Perplexity asking it if her statement</span> in her most recent post was true. I pasted the results below.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>— Harry<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Here is what perplexity said:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>“The claim is not true. Google’s policy on protecting user data from government requests, including requiring legal process and reviewing each one, has not changed under the current Trump administration. Cooperation remains limited to valid legal requests, as before.[google +2]<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><br>Policy Consistency<br>Google states it does not provide governments direct access or sell user data, and it challenges overly broad requests regardless of the administration. Recent transparency reports and policies confirm the company reviews all requests to ensure legal compliance, narrowing or objecting as needed. No evidence shows a shift to “happily cooperate” without process.[google +3]<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><br>Recent Deals<br>Agreements like the 2025 GSA deal for Gemini AI tools involve government procurement of services, not user data sharing from Gmail or Docs. These are commercial contracts for federal use, separate from individual user privacy policies.[foxbusiness +1]<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><br>Data Requests Process<br>For scenarios like mass deportations, Google would still require warrants, subpoenas, or court orders per U.S. laws like ECPA, as outlined in their handling policies. Historical practices show notifications to users when possible and opposition to improper demands. Trump administration data pushes target agencies like SNAP, not private companies like Google.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><br></span><br clear=all><br clear=all><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=5 cellpadding=0 style='background:#EEEEEE'><tr><td width=306 valign=top style='width:229.5pt;padding:3.75pt 3.75pt 3.75pt 3.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'><a href="http://www.forsdick.com/resume/" target="_blank"><span style='color:#1155CC'>Harry Forsdick</span></a><br><a href="http://lexingtontmma.org/" target="_blank"><span style='color:#1155CC'>Town Meeting Member Precinct 7</span></a><br><a href="https://mail.google.com/mail/?view=cm&fs=1&tf=1&to=harry@forsdick.com" target="_blank"><span style='color:#1155CC'>harry@forsdick.com</span></a><br><a href="http://www.forsdick.com/" target="_blank"><span style='color:#1155CC'>www.forsdick.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td width=15 style='width:11.25pt;padding:3.75pt 3.75pt 3.75pt 3.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.5pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td width=179 valign=top style='width:134.25pt;padding:3.75pt 3.75pt 3.75pt 3.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'><a href="https://goo.gl/xZXT2F" target="_blank"><span style='color:#1155CC'>46 Burlington St.<br>Lexington, MA 02420</span></a><br><a href="callto:17817996002" target="_blank"><span style='color:#1155CC'>(781) 799-6002 (mobile)</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p></td></tr></table><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Sat, Jan 17, 2026 at 11:07<span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> </span>AM OLGA P GUTTAG via LCTG <<a href="mailto:lctg@lists.toku.us">lctg@lists.toku.us</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><p class=MsoNormal>Though Google had our info since we started using their products, their stated policy was to protect any information they had about us from outsiders, including the govt. Now, as they happily cooperate with the current administration, if Trump decides to, say, deport all Chinese-Americans and needs to find some reason, getting all email/docs for these people from Google is pretty much guaranteed. <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>So what is different now is Google’s change in how they protect our info.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Olga<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Jan 17, 2026, at 10:39<span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> </span>AM, Adam Broun <<a href="mailto:abroun@gmail.com" target="_blank">abroun@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Google has always had access to Gmail, Docs etc in order to sell advertising. And they’ve always been good at searching/indexing it. So what's different now?<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Jan 17, 2026, at 09:47, Stan Rose via LCTG <<a href="mailto:lctg@lists.toku.us" target="_blank">lctg@lists.toku.us</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>If it's Gemini you want to avoid, then you will have to stop using SIRI because Apple has announced they will partner will Google to use Gemini in Siri.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="https://www.macrumors.com/2026/01/13/google-gemini-siri-capabilities-report/" target="_blank">https://www.macrumors.com/2026/01/13/google-gemini-siri-capabilities-report/</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br clear=all><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Stan<br><a href="mailto:stan_rose@alum.mit.edu" target="_blank">stan_rose@alum.mit.edu</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Fri, Jan 16, 2026 at 11:13<span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> </span>PM OLGA P GUTTAG via LCTG <<a href="mailto:lctg@lists.toku.us" target="_blank">lctg@lists.toku.us</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><p class=MsoNormal>Lauren has also advised users to stay away from Google docs, since that is the next place they will start pushing Gemini. Sounds like moving everything away from Google is in my near future - SIGH.<br><br>Olga<br><br><br><br>> On Jan 16, 2026, at 10:26<span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> </span>PM, Drew King 65 via LCTG <<a href="mailto:lctg@lists.toku.us" target="_blank">lctg@lists.toku.us</a>> wrote:<br>> <br>> I read about this last week. I've already gone into Gmail and turned everything off but thanks for telling everybody. I was going to send out a link that had instructions but your instructions are correct. <br>> <br>> I'm in the process of getting off gmail. 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