[Lex Computer & Tech Group/LCTG] The impossible? Buy a laptop WITHOUT Microsoft Windows?

Umesh ushelat at gmail.com
Sun Dec 5 08:41:16 PST 2021


My son built the machine he now uses as a CS major. I’ll ask him if he will
present when he is back for the holidays.

Umesh

On Sat, Dec 4, 2021 at 9:39 PM Rich Moffitt <rich at richmoffitt.org> wrote:

> Keep in mind that OEMs pay between $15 and $50 for the OEM Windows
> license, so the markup for the consumer is negligible in most cases.
> Framework looks very good, though it's currently only Intel CPUs and a
> little more expensive (but upgradeable, which might make it worth the
> upfront cost).
>
> At the moment, I think AMD Ryzen is top of the heap for non-Apple options
> (at least until Intel Alder Lake). I bought an ASUS Zephyrus G14 (40GB RAM,
> 1TB SSD, Ryzen 9 5900HS, RTX 3060) earlier this year in anticipation of
> chip shortages making a later upgrade potentially impractical. I'm running
> Fedora 35 on it and the only thing not working in Linux is the fingerprint
> reader.
>
> With regard to Linux compatibility, the model matters, since compatibility
> quirks can get in the way. Off the top of my head, Lenovo Legion series and
> ASUS ROG have decent support.
>
> -Rich
>
> On Sat, Dec 4, 2021, 8:30 PM <jjrudy1 at comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> That might be an interesting 30 min talk at one of our meetings.
>>
>> Thoughts?
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* LCTG <lctg-bounces+jjrudy1=comcast.net at lists.toku.us> *On Behalf
>> Of *Jon Dreyer
>> *Sent:* Saturday, December 4, 2021 8:11 PM
>> *To:* lctg at lists.toku.us
>> *Subject:* Re: [Lex Computer & Tech Group/LCTG] The impossible? Buy a
>> laptop WITHOUT Microsoft Windows?
>>
>>
>>
>> Coincidentally, I did just that. A few folks recommended that I try a
>> Framework <https://frame.work> laptop. I'll write more about it soon but
>> I put the "kit" together in about a half hour (most of the time struggling
>> with the tiny wifi antenna wires). Easily installed Ubuntu Linux. Now I'm
>> in the process of moving my stuff over from my mac. First impressions are
>> that it's a great little machine with replaceable parts from reputable
>> manufacturers. Fits together nicely.
>>
>> Mine's kind of insanely tricked out: 64G RAM, 4T SSD. $2636.
>>
>> --
>> Jon "Whole Kit And Ooodles" Dreyer
>> Math tutor/Computer science tutor <http://www.passionatelycurious.com>
>> www.passionatelycurious.com
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2021-12-04 17:37, Steve Isenberg wrote:
>>
>> Gentlepeople,
>>
>> Do you know of any place where you can buy one of those really powerful
>> systems (like, Intel i7, good graphics, HD display, 500GB SSD, 16GB memory)
>> and save money by buying the machine *without* an operating system (like
>> Windows)?
>>
>> I'm thinking of trying to install a Linux release on the machine and try
>> it for video editing.  Every place I look bundles the machine with
>> Microsoft Windows.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> -steve
>>
>>
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