[Lex Computer & Tech Group/LCTG] Fwd: First Known Covid Case Was Vendor at Wuhan Market, Scientist Claims - The New York Times

Mon Nov 22 07:14:53 PST 2021

I think the latest Michael Lewis book  "The Premonition: A Pandemic Story"
is relevant to the question of proactive response.  It helps understand the
bureaucratic difficulty that CDC has dealing with any fast moving crisis.

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On Mon, Nov 22, 2021, 8:40 AM Steve Isenberg <smisenberg at gmail.com> wrote:

> Agree we need to expect that there will be another pandemic.
> Actually I think there was a time when we were proactive in the US but I
> don't want to get into politics.
> -steve
>
> On Mon, Nov 22, 2021 at 7:55 AM Robert Primak <bobprimak at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> A "reaction" is not proactive. An appropriate response would be from a
>> more proactive perspective. Not what the US (and Britain) originally were
>> doing. It's not like we all were never warned that a global pandemic would
>> someday happen!
>>
>> -- Bob Primak
>>
>>
>> On Monday, November 22, 2021, 07:50:08 AM EST, Harry Forsdick <
>> harry at forsdick.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Bob and Carl,
>>
>> I applaud your desire to move on and not have us engage in the much
>> easier (and less productive) blame game.
>>
>> You ask a lot of important questions, and I must admit that I have no
>> idea how to get those questions elevated above the blame game questions --
>> i.e., the ones that get publically asked by politicians, TV News Shows not
>> on PBS, and weak thinkers like me when I'm tired.  We all need to focus on
>> the difficult questions, not the ones that are easy to answer.
>>
>> Keep up the good work in getting us to focus on the right questions so
>> that next time we will get to the needed reaction quicker.
>>
>> -- Harry
>>
>>
>> Harry Forsdick <http://www.forsdick.com/resume/>
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>>
>> On Mon, Nov 22, 2021 at 7:28 AM Robert Primak <bobprimak at yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I'd rather not seek to fix blame.
>>
>> But we should find out exactly what did happen, and what factors did
>> contribute to the spread of COVID-19, in China and in other regions. And
>> why (if this is true) COVID-19 has not been spreading recently in
>> sub-Saharan Africa. (Could be lack of accurate reporting, but some
>> scientists think there's more going on there. Could have implications re.
>> population genetics and disease resistance, or resistance due to other
>> regional endemic diseases.)
>>
>> I'd like the emphasis to be on:
>>
>> What do we do better next time a disease outbreak threatens to become a
>> pandemic? How can we encourage better communication and greater
>> transparency? Can the rest of the world convince regimes like in China that
>> more openness won't embarrass them or cause sanctions against them just for
>> admitting to needed facts and supplying needed data? How can we Americans
>> participate in International disease research without contributing to
>> future "accidents"? How do we get testing, monitoring and medicines
>> (including vaccines) to places like India and Africa and South America
>> faster next time?
>>
>> And there WILL be a "next time"!
>>
>> -- Bob Primak
>>
>> On Monday, November 22, 2021, 12:23:48 AM EST, Carl Lazarus <
>> carllazarus at comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>> I don’t think we’ll ever know with certainty how the disease started.
>> I’m not so sure that it matters, except to people who want to blame China
>> for it (or blame the US CDC for working with the Wuhan lab).  The Chinese
>> government does deserve opprobrium for its slowness to release
>> information.  Some Chinese individuals did a good job of getting
>> information out to the world in mid to late January despite their
>> government.  Then the US government and the WHO were slow to act on it.
>>
>> -- Carl
>>
>>
>>
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>> Behalf Of *Harry Forsdick
>> *Sent:* Thursday, November 18, 2021 4:03 PM
>> *To:* Lex Computer Group <LCTG at lists.toku.us>
>> *Subject:* [Lex Computer & Tech Group/LCTG] Fwd: First Known Covid Case
>> Was Vendor at Wuhan Market, Scientist Claims - The New York Times
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>> harry at forsdick.com
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>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>> From: *George Schaefer* <gis.law at gmail.com>
>> Date: Thu, Nov 18, 2021 at 3:11 PM
>> Subject: Fwd: First Known Covid Case Was Vendor at Wuhan Market,
>> Scientist Claims - The New York Times
>> To: Harry Forsdick <harry at forsdick.com>
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>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>> From: *George Schaefer* <gis.law at gmail.com>
>> Date: Thu, Nov 18, 2021 at 3:07 PM
>> Subject: First Known Covid Case Was Vendor at Wuhan Market, Scientist
>> Claims - The New York Times
>> To: george Schaefer <gislaw at gmail.com>
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>> https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/18/health/covid-wuhan-market-lab-leak.html
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>>
>> Harry I don't have everyone's email but this article is timely.
>>
>> --
>>
>> George Schaefer
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