[Lex Computer & Tech Group/LCTG] Nuclear fusion...
Michael Alexander
mna.ma at yahoo.com
Tue Dec 13 13:28:41 PST 2022
Carl,
We could take your remark even further, Carl. The “shot” on Dec 5 was far from the “first controlled fusion experiment in history”: It was the first in which the energy of fusion exceeded the energy of the pulsed laser beams that initiated the fusion. (Preceding experiments failed.)
We language snobs should, however, be consoled by the fact that the general public probably understood what the LLNL/DOE people were trying to say.
– Mike Alexander
On Tuesday, December 13, 2022, 4:02 PM, carllazarus at comcast.net wrote:
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I read that “The LLNL said a team at its National Ignition Facility (NIF) conducted the first controlled fusion experiment in history on December 5, achieving what is known as "scientific energy breakeven."”
What is counted in “scientific energy” and what does it omit?
-- Carl
From: LCTG <lctg-bounces+carllazarus=comcast.net at lists.toku.us> On Behalf Of Ted Kochanski
Sent: Monday, December 12, 2022 7:32 PM
To: Drew King (dking65 at kingconsulting.us) <dking65 at kingconsulting.us>
Cc: Lex Computer Group <lctg at lists.toku.us>
Subject: Re: [Lex Computer & Tech Group/LCTG] Nuclear fusion...
All,
Be careful about Hype versus simple reality
Yes it does appear that LLNL National Ignition Facility may have hammered a poor defenseless target pellet into producing more fusion energy than was absorbed by the pellet
so technically Q>1 [about 1.2]
BUT -- and I'll admit a bias toward Magnetic Confinement Fusion -- the Energy used to produce the Energy delivered to the pellet was not part of the calculation
While Magnetic Fusion with Superconducting Magnets in a Tokamak configuration probably need Q>2 to be a credible Eureka Moment -- The energy needed to fire the lasers probably needs a Q>30
Ted
On Mon, Dec 12, 2022 at 5:30 PM Drew King (dking65 at kingconsulting.us) <dking65 at kingconsulting.us> wrote:
All,
The Verge: A “scientific breakthrough” in nuclear fusion? How to watch the announcement tomorrow.
https://www.theverge.com/2022/12/12/23505416/nuclear-fusion-scientific-breakthrough-how-to-watch-announcement-biden
--
Drew King
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