[Lex Computer & Tech Group/LCTG] Concern over MRNA Covid Vaccine and Cardiac Side Effects

Thu Oct 20 16:43:18 PDT 2022

 Well, folks are we satisfied? We have turned our group's email list once again into a political forum.
I admit to participating in causing this.
I can imagine someone coming here looking to figure out what kind of a group we are. And deciding "Nope" to our meetings because of what's being posted in this email list.
Didn't we have a separate list for Extended Topics? 
-- Bob Primak 

    On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 05:04:40 PM EDT, john rudy <jjrudy1 at comcast.net> wrote:  

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Of course expert opinion evolves over time, and that is what people who do not understand science seem to have difficulty understanding.  Also, headlines rarely explain why the “current” statement was made.  Cleaning food when getting home from the supermarket in the early COVID days seemed reasonable.  Once more data was available the opinion changed (or better yet, evolved).  Newton didn’t become wrong because of relativity

John Rudy

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From: LCTG <lctg-bounces+jjrudy1=comcast.net at lists.toku.us> On Behalf Of Ted Kochanski
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2022 4:11 PM
To: Jon Dreyer <jon at jondreyer.org>
Cc: lctg at lists.toku.us
Subject: Re: [Lex Computer & Tech Group/LCTG] Concern over MRNA Covid Vaccine and Cardiac Side Effects

Jon,

I find the statement "On topics on which I'm not an expert (and that's most all of them) I defer to the consensus of the experts, not the outliers" -- the essence of our generic problem -- the consensus in matters of some complexity is frequently proven to have been wrong in the long run.

For example when my father-in-law was active as the Medical Officer of Bossier Parish in northwest Louisiana [circa 1970's] the consensus of the experts was don't let a diabetic eat ice cream but having  a boiled skinless potato or white rice was fine

The reality -- noted by outliers such as my father-in-law -- icecream being a complex sugar suspension [mostly: Lactose, a disaccharide sugar, with other stuff] is slow to get into the bloodstream -- meanwhile the simple starches in potato [not the skin] or white rice are converted to glucose by the saliva and essentially in the bloodstream nearly instantly

Galileo would be another of those outliers

Anyway -- today the CDC advisory panel  [Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP)]   voted 15-0 to include the new instantiation of the MRNA COVID-19 vaccine as a recommended childhood vaccine along with the traditional and tested standards of whooping cough, etc.

Note there is no [as in NONE] human data yet available [even for review by the ACIP] from the vaccine providers only a handful of mice have been used as "guinea pigs"

Well -- under the circumstances -- I'm skeptical of the efficacy versus safety for the youngest of our population

Ted

On Wed, Oct 19, 2022 at 4:28 PM Jon Dreyer <jon at jondreyer.org> wrote:

My spider sense started tingling wildly when I saw that. It didn't take me long to find this: https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/i-know-you-are-but-what-am-i-dr-asseem-malhotra-rails-against-covid-19-misinformation/

If you look hard enough, you can find something that confirms any bias. On topics on which I'm not an expert (and that's most all of them) I defer to the consensus of the experts, not the outliers.

-- 

Jon "Misinformation Misinformation" Dreyer
Math Tutor/Compuer Science Tutor
Jon Dreyer Music 

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