[Lex Computer & Tech Group/LCTG] Concern over MRNA Covid Vaccine and Cardiac Side Effects

Fri Oct 21 12:45:02 PDT 2022

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-- Bob Primak

    On Friday, October 21, 2022 at 02:55:03 PM EDT, Shelly Lowenthal <shelly.lowenthal at gmail.com> wrote:  

 So strange that we have such a smart group of scientists and engineers that are amazingly interested in fusion, galaxies, history, but could care less about the danger of this spike poison, even for themselves and their families. While you hide from this, other real scientists are studying the mechanisms of this poison. Here is a link to the full list with just a few of the titles below it. Any interest now? The full list might exceed google's email limit, so click on the link below:
https://palexander.substack.com/p/so-you-say-dr-alexander-you-keep
Where is the evidence? 

Cerebral venous thrombosis after COVID-19 vaccination in the UK: a multicentre cohort study: https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(21)01608-1/

Fatal cerebral hemorrhage after COVID-19 vaccine: 

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33928772/

Myocarditis after mRNA vaccination against SARS-CoV-2, a case series: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2666602221000409

Three cases of acute venous thromboembolism in women after vaccination against COVID-19: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2213333X21003929

Acute thrombosis of the coronary tree after vaccination against COVID-19: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1936879821003988

Marvin - it's 15% not times. However, 15% has not been seen before and it's a lot of death. Contact me personally if you want answers to the other questions and examples.

On Thu, Oct 20, 2022 at 9:57 PM Marvin Menzin <mmenzin at icloud.com> wrote:

Shelly, 
i am not going to spend hours on videos and articles listed below. i just want to ask your opinion on this  : 
1- Do you believe that the billions of vaccinations and boosters for covid from pfizer and moderna did not prevent millions of deaths and severe hospitalizations of the elderly as claimed by the published peer reviewed studies from the USA , germany, the UK and Israel ? 
2- Do you believe that a conspiracy of people in the CDC , FDA and big pharma have suppressed  large numbers of reports of deaths and severe illnesses  from these vaccines ? 
3- do you believe that excess deaths of people in major countries  that took full vaccinations are 15 times higher than in countries that didnt take many vaccines,? 
If the answers are YES to all , then you would not take these vaccines even if you were 90 years old and covid was rampant and killing thousands all around you .
If you believe the answers are yes then all the scientists  and doctors and reporters from all the world media are also in on the conspiracy or are  incompetent and unable to expose this huge conspiracy. 
Franky my own opinion with no scientific evidence except Occams  razor   is NO to all these questions.. so at 88 I thankfully took all the vaccines and boosters that were offered . marvin 

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On Oct 20, 2022, at 5:44 PM, Shelly Lowenthal <shelly.lowenthal at gmail.com> wrote:

Here's my rant -I've been following this for the last 10 months.

Watch this movie(free for one more week) then look at all the damage. I always watch at 1.5speed. One hour.

https://www.therealanthonyfaucimovie.com/trailer/

Open VaersMortality. Conservative 5x underreporting, researched 44x underreporting

https://openvaers.com/covid-data/mortality

General Covid data

https://openvaers.com/covid-data

All-cause mortality15% higher than normal in the most highly vaccinated European countries, 4%higher in the least vaccinated countries. EU MPs showed a map of Europe withexcess higher last week after Pfizer admitted not testing for transmission.There are lots of links - here's one.

https://palexander.substack.com/p/europe-surveillance-euromomo-bulletin?utm_source=substack&utm_campaign=post_embed&utm_medium=web

8-fold increase insudden deaths of fully vaccinated Canadian doctors under 30 (80 in a year)

Many sudden deathsof young athletes reported with videos of collapse (shown in Fauci movie) -Myocarditis will damage you for life! Denmark says too risky for anyone under50.

For the first timemorticians can't embalm due to the long. There are lots of reports.

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/unusually-large-blood-clots-found-in-bodies-of-the-deceased-since-covid-jab-rollout/

Search for the fraudin Pfizer's Covid testing - why did they want to hide this for 75 years.Pregnant women miscarried. Many injured including kids that were misreported byPfizer.

Think of the lies byFDA, CDC, Pfizer

Safe and effective(NOT!!)

Stays in your arm(now found in dead patient brains) ( also in heart, blood clots, testicles,liver, ovaries, and many other places)

You won't catchCovid

You won't spreadCovid (Turns out Pfizer never tested this)

You won't go to thehospital if you catch Covid

You won't die if youend up in the hospital

All these are wereLIES . Hospitals don't report Covid status on death -> CDC marks them asunvaccinated.

I did get 3 shotsand regret taking the last. Tried whatever I could do (Autophagy) to get rid ofthe poisonous spike. My 15YO granddaughter had a heart event days after herbooster and is now wearing a Halter monitor.

Yes - most survivedthe shot. You guys all survived - good genetics at play. Too many others gotdamaged from the shot. 

Ask yourselves - whyis this the only disease that was denied early treatment? Because FDA, CDC,NIH, medical journals, TV, Newspapers are captured by the big pharmacycompanies. Would you complain about pharma if your job depended on it - nosince 65% of FDA employees are paid due to pharma funds. Yes, NIH and CDC staffget royalties from pharma. 

My wife and I caughtCovid and we followed this protocol, including that dreaded Noble prize winninghorse de-wormer prescribed millions of times (now generic). Back to normal in 2days with some cough for a week. These protocols were developed by doctors thatsuccessfully treated thousands of patients unlike anyone at the FDA.

https://covid19criticalcare.com/treatment-protocols/i-care/

I'm happy to sharemore information or details of above. There is so much bad stuff

Shelly Lowenthal

On Thu, Oct 20, 2022 at 5:05 PM john rudy <jjrudy1 at comcast.net> wrote:

Of course expert opinion evolves over time, and that is what people who do not understand science seem to have difficulty understanding.  Also, headlines rarely explain why the “current” statement was made.  Cleaning food when getting home from the supermarket in the early COVID days seemed reasonable.  Once more data was available the opinion changed (or better yet, evolved).  Newton didn’t become wrong because of relativity

John Rudy

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From: LCTG <lctg-bounces+jjrudy1=comcast.net at lists.toku.us> On Behalf Of Ted Kochanski
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2022 4:11 PM
To: Jon Dreyer <jon at jondreyer.org>
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Subject: Re: [Lex Computer & Tech Group/LCTG] Concern over MRNA Covid Vaccine and Cardiac Side Effects

Jon,

I find the statement "On topics on which I'm not an expert (and that's most all of them) I defer to the consensus of the experts, not the outliers" -- the essence of our generic problem -- the consensus in matters of some complexity is frequently proven to have been wrong in the long run.

For example when my father-in-law was active as the Medical Officer of Bossier Parish in northwest Louisiana [circa 1970's] the consensus of the experts was don't let a diabetic eat ice cream but having  a boiled skinless potato or white rice was fine

The reality -- noted by outliers such as my father-in-law -- icecream being a complex sugar suspension [mostly: Lactose, a disaccharide sugar, with other stuff] is slow to get into the bloodstream -- meanwhile the simple starches in potato [not the skin] or white rice are converted to glucose by the saliva and essentially in the bloodstream nearly instantly

Galileo would be another of those outliers

Anyway -- today the CDC advisory panel  [Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP)]   voted 15-0 to include the new instantiation of the MRNA COVID-19 vaccine as a recommended childhood vaccine along with the traditional and tested standards of whooping cough, etc.

Note there is no [as in NONE] human data yet available [even for review by the ACIP] from the vaccine providers only a handful of mice have been used as "guinea pigs"

Well -- under the circumstances -- I'm skeptical of the efficacy versus safety for the youngest of our population

Ted

On Wed, Oct 19, 2022 at 4:28 PM Jon Dreyer <jon at jondreyer.org> wrote:

My spider sense started tingling wildly when I saw that. It didn't take me long to find this: https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/i-know-you-are-but-what-am-i-dr-asseem-malhotra-rails-against-covid-19-misinformation/

If you look hard enough, you can find something that confirms any bias. On topics on which I'm not an expert (and that's most all of them) I defer to the consensus of the experts, not the outliers.

-- 

Jon "Misinformation Misinformation" Dreyer
Math Tutor/Compuer Science Tutor
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