[Lex Computer & Tech Group/LCTG] ufo

Tue Feb 14 13:29:03 PST 2023

All,

Lockheed Martin -- might be a synonym for Acme Laser

Self-Protect High Energy Laser Demonstrator
https://www.lockheedmartin.com/en-us/news/features/2020/tactical-airborne-laser-pods-are-coming.html

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Ted

On Tue, Feb 14, 2023 at 4:07 PM Ted Kochanski <tedpkphd at gmail.com> wrote:

> All,
>
> The good folks at the Missile Defense Agency will have to stand in for
> Acme-Laser
> from a relatively recent article
> Return Of The ABL? Missile Defense Agency Works On Laser Drone
> By   SYDNEY J. FREEDBERG JR.
> on August 17, 2015 at 4:00 AM
>
> https://breakingdefense.com/2015/08/return-of-the-abl-missile-defense-agency-works-on-laser-drone/
>
> HUNTSVILLE, ALA.: Three years after the Missile Defense Agency mothballed
> its massive Airborne Laser, MDA is planning to reboot the concept for a new
> era.
>
> The old ABL was Boeing 747 with a human crew and tanks of toxic chemicals
>> to generate power. The new idea a high-altitude, long-endurance drone armed
>> with a more compact electrically powered laser...
>> “The problem with boost phase is…you’ve got to get close enough,” Frank
>> Kendall, the Pentagon’s procurement chief, told reporters at the Space &
>> Missile Defense conference here...” But if you’re close enough to shoot at
>> a rocket right after it launches from enemy territory, you’re probably
>> close enough for the enemy to shoot you...The Missile Defense Agency will
>> take an “incremental, step-wise, knowledge-based” approach this time,
>> pledged the MDA director, Vice Adm. James Syring, in remarks to the
>> Huntsville conference. “It is a very different approach than we did in the
>> past of just leaping to something and investing everything we had.”... MDA
>> will conduct experiments and review alternatives until 2018-2019, when
>> Syring said it will pick “which technologies we think have the most
>> promise.” Then a “low-power laser demonstrator” will fly circa 2021. When
>> the full-power system will enter service is an open question, not answered
>> in Syring’s brief... In a successful 2010 test, ABL shot down a ballistic
>> missile “tens of kilometers” away, Syring said, using about a megawatt of
>> power. For the illustrative concept of operations the MDA director briefed
>> at the conference — which he emphasized was not the only option — “we need
>> to be hundreds of kilometers [from the target] in a platform that can go
>> much higher and stay up for much longer.”...The manned Airborne Laser maxed
>> out at an altitude of about 40,000 feet, where clouds and turbulence made
>> it harder to keep the beam on the target. “65,000 feet is where we think we
>> need to be,” said Syring, where the air is so thin that a laser beam can
>> reach much farther...What matters is not just maximum power, but how much
>> weight it takes to generate (power density), especially when you’re trying
>> to fit the laser on an aircraft. The Airborne Laser took 55 kilograms
>> (about 120 pounds) to generate a kilowatt of laser power, Syring said,
>> which is why a megawatt (1,000 kW) took a 747. Electric lasers currently in
>> the lab take 35-40 kilograms per kilowatt, and the MDA research program
>> plans to drive that down by a factor of ten, to 3-5 kg/kW. MDA’s ultimate
>> goal is 2 kg/kW, which would make a one-megawatt weight 5,000 pounds,
>> something a drone could carry... “If it had been easy we would done it by
>> now,” Syring said. But given the rapid progress in laser technology, he
>> went on, “it’s not a huge reach.”... Unlike a manned aircraft whose crew
>> must land and rest, a drone can stay aloft for 24 hours or more. Unlike a
>> chemically powered laser, or conventional missiles and guns for that
>> matter, an electric laser can keep firing as long as the aircraft’s
>> generators are running. A mid-air refueling both keeps the drone flying and
>> “reloads” its ability to generate power for the laser. The combination of
>> unmanned endurance and unlimited shots means a single drone could stay on
>> station for days, instead of needing multiple manned aircraft to come and
>> go in rotation...What’s more, an electrical laser can dial its power up and
>> down for different targets at different ranges...
>
>
> “Thinking of this as a ballistic missile killer may be too narrow,”
>> Gunzinger [ laser expert and advocate at the Center for Strategic and
>> Budgetary Assessments ] said. If MDA can actually solve the boost-phase
>> intercept problem, hard as that is, it will have built a laser-armed
>> aircraft that’s lethally adaptable to other missions as well.
>
>
> So perhaps there is something in the works at MDA which will eventually be
> able to shoot down balloons at 20 to 30 km
>
> Ted
>
> On Tue, Feb 14, 2023 at 2:28 PM Drew King <dking65 at kingconsulting.us>
> wrote:
>
>> I'm thinking the government has no contacts at Acme laser cannon Corp.
>> Where oh where is Wile E. Coyote?
>>
>>
>> On 2/14/2023 2:19 PM, Steve Isenberg wrote:
>>
>> Mike,
>> I'm thinking that the balloon could have been punctured (by laser or
>> cannon), this could have been done around when it was first discovered.
>> They could have analyzed the drifting and punctured the balloon when its
>> descent would have had the least likelihood of causing damage when it met
>> the ground.
>> So this would be long before it passed over to the Atlantic; and in fact
>> helicopters could have monitored its descent and pinpointed it once it hit
>> ground.
>> -steve
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 14, 2023 at 1:35 PM Michael Alexander <mna.ma at yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Steve,
>>>
>>> What you may be missing (although its importance may be debatable) is
>>> that if somehow one ‘pricked’ the balloon, it would continue to drift
>>> ‘horizontally’ for some distance.  It would land farther from shore, in
>>> deeper water, and be harder to retrieve.
>>>
>>>     — Mike Alexander
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, February 14, 2023, 1:00 PM, Ted Kochanski <
>>> tedpkphd at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Balloon seems to be white -- so probably not that easy to "poke a hole"
>>> with a laser -- you need to get a fair amount of power onto the balloon
>>> MW/sq m and hold it there for enough time to evaporate the plastic
>>> We have some R&D tech that could do that at the right kind of range --
>>> but it might not be in the right place to be used because of the curvature
>>> of the earth
>>>
>>> Cannon fire from a fighter would seem to be the best approach
>>>
>>> Ted
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>>> From: *Steve Isenberg* <smisenberg at gmail.com>
>>> Date: Tue, Feb 14, 2023 at 12:40 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Lex Computer & Tech Group/LCTG] ufo
>>> To: Robert Primak <bobprimak at yahoo.com>
>>> Cc: Lex Computer Group <lctg at lists.toku.us>
>>>
>>>
>>> So they shot down the balloon with a missile, it totally deflated, and
>>> fell into the water where they have to search to find it, and the impact
>>> with the water may have damaged things.
>>>
>>> Did anyone consider: Poke a hole in the balloon (using a laser perhaps)
>>> that would cause it to descend rather than fall rapidly to the ground.
>>>
>>> (Or am I missing something?)
>>> -steve
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 14, 2023 at 11:46 AM Robert Primak <bobprimak at yahoo.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Current terms: UAP = Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon. IAP = Identified
>>> Aerial Phenomenon.
>>>
>>> Current status of balloons = deflated. (Formerly known as "shot down".)
>>>
>>> -- Bob Primak
>>>
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